No price? I guess over 3k for 128GB ram and Nvidia spark.
Is it possible to be cheaper than the DGX Spark? Because that's $4,700. I would think Spark + Laptop would be necessarily more expensive.
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Microsoft builds MacBook Pro rival with NVIDIA-powered Surface Laptop Ultra
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Re: Microsoft builds MacBook Pro rival with NVIDIA-powered Surface Laptop Ultra
#142Earlier quoted context omitted.
LLMs are not yet capable of generating the level of marketing wankery seen here.
What do you mean, that's pretty much everything LLMs generate "Nothing wasted. Everything intentional." That's the most ChatGPT line ever, where everything has to be a cringy punchline "A machine like this should not sit still. It should be pushed. Taken to the edge. Used to make real what others call impossible." I really hope no human would write something like that
> "A machine like this should not sit still. It should be pushed. Taken to the edge."
"Taken to the edge, and pushed off this edge. To garbage bin."
Re: Microsoft builds MacBook Pro rival with NVIDIA-powered Surface Laptop Ultra
#143A former employer of mine, owned by a retired NFL player, purchased Surface devices for the sales staff in addition to their laptops. This was presumably because Microsoft and the NFL had a deal where everyone on the sidelines were using Surfaces and they thought it was a good idea. I say that because no one was asking for them, and when we received them I was inundated with tickets about poor performance: "my surfac…
> an ARM device that had the battery life of Apple Silicon, yet was a real computer that wasn't locked down, ensured/promoted ARM compatibility with their ecosystem
Isn’t that what this is? (Or is supposed to be?)
Re: Microsoft builds MacBook Pro rival with NVIDIA-powered Surface Laptop Ultra
#144A former employer of mine, owned by a retired NFL player, purchased Surface devices for the sales staff in addition to their laptops. This was presumably because Microsoft and the NFL had a deal where everyone on the sidelines were using Surfaces and they thought it was a good idea. I say that because no one was asking for them, and when we received them I was inundated with tickets about poor performance: "my surfac…
> an ARM device that had the battery life of Apple Silicon, yet was a real computer that wasn't locked down, ensured/promoted ARM compatibility with their ecosystem Isn’t that what this is? (Or is supposed to be?)
> (Or is supposed to be?)
I would be happy to eat my words "later this year" (per their timeline) but past Surface interactions lead me to believe it will be more of the same as in the past. Bad performance, bad battery life, bad build quality, bad compatibility.
For the sake of competition and options, I really hope to be proven wrong... I just wouldn't bet on it.
Re: Microsoft builds MacBook Pro rival with NVIDIA-powered Surface Laptop Ultra
#145Very disappointed that MS didn't stick with the watchband hinge. My wife's 10 year old Surface Book has had toddlers stand on it and the thing still works like new.
Re: Microsoft builds MacBook Pro rival with NVIDIA-powered Surface Laptop Ultra
#146A former employer of mine, owned by a retired NFL player, purchased Surface devices for the sales staff in addition to their laptops. This was presumably because Microsoft and the NFL had a deal where everyone on the sidelines were using Surfaces and they thought it was a good idea. I say that because no one was asking for them, and when we received them I was inundated with tickets about poor performance: "my surfac…
I have a surface Go gen 1 and its quote snappy for such a machine though I rarely use it. I personally would not touch an MS Arm device.
Re: Microsoft builds MacBook Pro rival with NVIDIA-powered Surface Laptop Ultra
#147Earlier quoted context omitted.
> an ARM device that had the battery life of Apple Silicon, yet was a real computer that wasn't locked down, ensured/promoted ARM compatibility with their ecosystem Isn’t that what this is? (Or is supposed to be?)
> (Or is supposed to be?) I would be happy to eat my words "later this year" (per their timeline) but past Surface interactions lead me to believe it will be more of the same as in the past. Bad performance, bad battery life, bad build quality, bad compatibility. For the sake of competition and options, I really hope to be proven wrong... I just wouldn't bet on it.
Sounds like you aren't familiar with Nvidia's dedication to low-power ARM SOCs. Ever heard of the Nintendo Switch before? The Tegra inside that is a 15w TDP gaming SOC. And it supports CUDA (somehow).
Re: Microsoft builds MacBook Pro rival with NVIDIA-powered Surface Laptop Ultra
#148Cool …but never buy v1 hardware folks! Especially for limited runs like high end laptops. Apple quality comes from scale. A narrow product line means they have literally hundreds or thousands times more testing than PC ultra books. (And still — don’t buy a first iteration of a new Apple chassis.)
That is the opposite of my rule for game consoles. Always buy v1. It is most likely to have unfixable hardware exploits allowing for homebrew use later in its life.
Re: Microsoft builds MacBook Pro rival with NVIDIA-powered Surface Laptop Ultra
#149I will never buy a Surface device ever again. I've been using an SL4 for the last four years with Linux on it, thanks to the surface-linux kernel. It's awful. It feels like it's actively refusing to work properly with Linux. Fair - it's not for Linux, and clearly that is expected with a Microsoft device. I've recently had to call their support for missing rubber feet. I figured I could get the replacement mailed(that…
I would be 3d-printing some janky feet in TPU before submitting myself to that process. Even if they "wear-out/fall-off", I can print some more.
Re: Microsoft builds MacBook Pro rival with NVIDIA-powered Surface Laptop Ultra
#150Earlier quoted context omitted.
> (Or is supposed to be?) I would be happy to eat my words "later this year" (per their timeline) but past Surface interactions lead me to believe it will be more of the same as in the past. Bad performance, bad battery life, bad build quality, bad compatibility. For the sake of competition and options, I really hope to be proven wrong... I just wouldn't bet on it.
Sounds like you aren't familiar with Nvidia's dedication to low-power ARM SOCs. Ever heard of the Nintendo Switch before? The Tegra inside that is a 15w TDP gaming SOC. And it supports CUDA (somehow).
> Sounds like you aren't familiar with Nvidia's dedication to low-power ARM SOCs. Ever heard of the Nintendo Switch before? The Tegra inside that is a 15w TDP gaming SOC. And it supports CUDA (somehow).
I think that GP comment is not intending to throw shade at ARM SOCs (many of which are quite nice, including those from Apple an Qualcomm), but specifically the Microsoft products built on them.