Would it be wrong to flip the narrative and say "3 in 4 (75%), don't feel this way"? Not trolling, genuine question.
Clearly you aren’t a journalist
Not one paid for clicks, anyway. Real journalists still exist.
Roughly a quarter of American professionals hit a wall in their careers
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Re: Roughly a quarter of American professionals hit a wall in their careers
#72Promotions are not worth it. You get a better salary bump by switching jobs. That's it, that's the whole story. Saved you 15 minutes.
Re: Roughly a quarter of American professionals hit a wall in their careers
#73Stalling out on promotion has always happened. It can be explained almost entirely by two factors: As you become more senior, the success metrics for your role change significantly. Mentoring only goes so far because there is a large element of self-awareness and a willingness to change. Some people never recognize this and many never successfully adapt to what seniority entails. It is the career equivalent of trying…
Another aspect of being promoted: many of us see what the next level has to do/is doing and isn’t interested in doing that. I’ve seen people get promoted and then immediately implode because N+1 started involving lots of politics that they couldn’t or didn’t want to handle. Even senior IC roles get more and more exposed to non-technical and organizational issues.
Re: Roughly a quarter of American professionals hit a wall in their careers
#74There's no reward for loyalty any more, and it's caused everyone to job hop (at least while that was possible), including me. At the time, employees complained about it, and in the same breath refused to give out any promotions and/or reward employees. Or they'd reward them with some shitty voucher. The world has literally become the people vs corporations. There is no soul in working any more.
two weeks notice when you leave but where's the two weeks notice when they fired you.
Don't give two weeks!
Re: Roughly a quarter of American professionals hit a wall in their careers
#75When you're asked to deliver 2x performance for +20% of salary, you sometimes need to take a step back and see how the others would fare.
Re: Roughly a quarter of American professionals hit a wall in their careers
#76At my workplace we were hyped up for a special announcement during a company meeting. this is after, literally, years of layoffs, offshoring, cut after cut to benefits, and restructurings. Morale is incredibly low. The big announcement is they are giving everyone one extra day off around a national holiday as a reward. We already have "unlimited" PTO but of course can't really use it. So their reward is letting us us…
Because of these shitty corporate companies that don't give a shit about their employees, the well is now poisoned for companies that do care especially smaller ones. Employees don't want to give their best anymore because they are burnt elsewhere and they become unemployable at smaller companies. It is a sad state of affairs.
Re: Roughly a quarter of American professionals hit a wall in their careers
#77Not sure about stall but it sure feels like employers are capitalising on this sense that everyone is keen to hold on to their job
It's systemic when you consider policymakers penalize you for not working. So many benefits are tied to work. The fed also adjust rates to make sure unemployment doesn't get so low to ensure employers always have max leverage. The biggie here is health insurance. Especially if you have kids, it's a huge risk to take time off to train for a better job or to risk taking a new job. Even having different insurance from a different employer means you may have to start over with different doctors.
Re: Roughly a quarter of American professionals hit a wall in their careers
#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Work hard and it will be recognized" is terrible, horrible, no good, very bad advice. "Tit for tat" is the most generous to the company anyone should ever be: try working hard, if it's recognized then continue, if it isn't see if you can politic until it is, and in the very likely circumstance that it continues to not be recognized either jump for a pay bump or work like you're paid.
I didn't say work hard. But if you keep contributing what you already contributed previously and nothing changes, your salary likely also doesn't change. Changing that doesn't necessarily require working hard, I haven't made any such claim. In fact my salary inversely correlated with my effort. But I do recognize that when I stopped changing things (i.e. my role in the company became stagnant), my salary also remaine…
Your reasoning implies that specific people within an org are not getting raises, but in practice it is entire orgs going without raises or promotions, regardless of what any individual is doing.
Re: Roughly a quarter of American professionals hit a wall in their careers
#79I’ve been in the industry for 40 years. This has always been a complaint. Always. It is not new. UNIONIZE
I've been in the industry for 30 years. "UNIONIZE" has always been the suggested answer. Always. But nobody ever steps up and actually does it, even despite the people being already socially united through platforms like HN, making formalization about as easy as can be possible.
GTA VI developers unionized about two days ago.
Re: Roughly a quarter of American professionals hit a wall in their careers
#80The youngest baby boomers are in their early 60s. I doubt it will make a difference in tech, but traditional industries, or what is left of them, should see a lot of senior roles open up as baby boomers begin to retire. Then, as they begin to pass away, a lot of their accumulated wealth will pass to their heirs as well.
The baby boomers have been a serious "clog" in the system at a lot of levels. It will be interesting to see how things play out once they're no longer actively involved.