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Creatine raises brain energy levels and slows cognitive decline: study

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Re: Creatine raises brain energy levels and slows cognitive decline: study

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Post by spiralcoaster »

ChuckMcM wrote: post #238
rzz3 wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like something we should study more rather than dismiss.

Interesting that you are hearing "dismissal" in the antecedent response. I read it as the poster "studying more" the data, and finding a lot of flaws in both the experimental design and the data analysis.Typically things a reviewer would do when a publication was submitted (or in our case posted here). The author, then goes back and answers the questions raised to show that the effect they are suggesting is durable i…

Don't waste your time responding to people like this. Their post is not much more than a passing thought where they take the headline fully at face value, and therefore are convinced it must be worth something and we should continue to study it. They will never read the paper or have a critical thought of their own.

Re: Creatine raises brain energy levels and slows cognitive decline: study

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Post by damontal »

relevant_stats wrote: post #124
narmiouh wrote: post #22

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What did you use to determine this? Ask because many of the online tools I've tried, they will sometimes tag what I've written at 30-40% AI written and sometimes purely AI written stuff is flagged as 60-70% AI

As of now there are only two somewhat reliable tools. First one is Pangram. Other available detectors are varying level of bad, with some of them entirely shit (eg zerogpt something). The second one is human mind. Read enough of that slop and your brain hopefully will start detecting AI patterns. And this article is totally AI, both to Pangram, and to my mind.

Read enough posts on LinkedIn and you’ll be a trained expert in spotting that slop.

Re: Creatine raises brain energy levels and slows cognitive decline: study

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Post by papascrubs »

syspec wrote: post #266

For someone who's always been interested in creatine, but never tried it due to being overwhelmed by choice... what's a standard go to product?

I get mine from bulksupplements. Gummies and many gym focused powders are extremely overpriced. Buying in bulk you should be able to get it for ~$.15 a day at 5g.

Re: Creatine raises brain energy levels and slows cognitive decline: study

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Post by ryan_n »

cheschire wrote: post #12

Feels like a sign of the times that I expect half the comments here to be paid astroturfing about how amazing creatine is.

Creatine doesn't need astroturfing.. It's not 's newest model turbo boost max pro extreme rocket 5.9. It's just a supplement that some people take.

Re: Creatine raises brain energy levels and slows cognitive decline: study

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Post by bhelkey »

sbayg wrote: post #283
bhelkey wrote: post #243

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> Creatine mono-hydrate which mostly comes from China and "creapure", which is a patented formula known for its purity. Creapure sells Creatine Monohydrate not a proprietary form of creatine [1]. The higher end in creatine is Creatine HCL which is more expensive but more water soliable, easier on the stomach, and requires a smaller dose. In terms of creatine manufactured in the Western World: * CON-CRĒT manufactures…

Weird, I’ve heard the HCL is harder on the stomach. I’ve actually never met anyone who uses monohydrate that reports any gastric issues whatsoever.

Stomach issues are a frequently reported side effect of Creatine Monohydrate [1].

The general school of thought behind the belief 'Creatine HCL is easier on the stomach" is:

1) HCL is much more water soluble and (likely) is more easily digested.

2) less creatine HCL stays undigested.

3) the dose needed is smaller.

4) anecdotes seem to support HCL being easier to digest.

To the best of my knowledge, there are no peer reviewed studies of monohydrate vs HCL that look to establish which is easier on the stomach.

[1] https://www.mdpi.com/2075-4663/14/4/137

Re: Creatine raises brain energy levels and slows cognitive decline: study

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Post by econ »

rzz3 wrote: post #98
tgv wrote: post #88

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19 patients completed, according to the article. And List Sorting, Oral reading, and Flanker only? The first and last are part of global and fluid composites, so those have to be excluded from comparison. That leaves us with 3 improved scores out of 12 tests. So 9 did not improve, or got worse. Figure 3 (of the original article) shows that the changes aren't big. Just "significant". Since the participants were in the…

Sounds like something we should study more rather than dismiss.

Creatine effects vary a lot from person to person. It isn't all that harmful and easy to notice. Best test it yourself.

I apparently produce much less than I can use. Effect is in the, how is this even legal? range.

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Post by dahart »

omnimus wrote: post #225
firefax wrote: post #220

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Normally I wouldn't ask this, but having seen the effects of Alzheimer's I must ask: is there any evidence that taking creatine will harm my brain? Let's be real: I take a lot of edibles. I smoke sometimes on a hike. Every once in a while I get a Guiness and a gyro. My health is by no means perfect, and if I'm willing to take in literal poison (yes, alchohol is that dangerous that I say such things even about my prec…

Creatine is one of the most studied supplements in fitness and i don't think there ever was evidence it was harmful. Then again supplements mostly create expensive pee.

> supplements mostly create expensive pee

Haha, that’s a great quote. Definitely going to borrow that one. Thanks!

Re: Creatine raises brain energy levels and slows cognitive decline: study

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Post by aussieguy1234 »

WhitneyLand wrote: post #36

The article made up the claim it’s not from the paper itself. There was some improvement in cognitive scores, but no placebo group. Without a placebo group, there are a lot of explanations for the data.

I also noted the lack of a placebo group.

Give them sugar pills and call them smart pills and their test scores will also improve.

That said, I work out daily and only just discovered the well researched and proven benefits of creatine on that front, so now I'm going to try it.

Re: Creatine raises brain energy levels and slows cognitive decline: study

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Post by senderista »

WhitneyLand wrote: post #36

The article made up the claim it’s not from the paper itself. There was some improvement in cognitive scores, but no placebo group. Without a placebo group, there are a lot of explanations for the data.

The article appears to be LLM-written.

Re: Creatine raises brain energy levels and slows cognitive decline: study

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Post by TheAceOfHearts »

Does anyone have advice for getting it down? I feel like no matter what I mix it with, it grosses me out and it becomes extremely challenging to get it down. I've tried pouring the dry powder in my mouth and just chugging it down quick as well as mixing it with various liquids, but they sandy texture makes me gag. I've managed to sustain taking creatine for a while but it never gets any better.
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