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Re: New Beam Spring Keyboards

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Some keys won’t work right away – you are responsible for making this keyboard work Do not use any beam spring keyboard in a mission-critical environment. I can say this is the first time I've seen this in the sales description for a keyboard. Are these assembled from NOS parts?

I’m not going to call it dumb, but I will will say… reading that bit, I don’t understand this product at all and could not be further from their target market.

Re: New Beam Spring Keyboards

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Hi HN, I know many of you are keyboard aficionados and I wanted to let you know that the Model F keyboard guy is making a 2nd generation of his Beam Spring keyboards. I got one and it is unlike any other keyboard I have ever used: the tactile feedback is precise like a buckle spring but louder and with a more pronounced break. Travel feels longer and obviously the keyboard sits very high compared to modern board. But…

"Like a Model F, but louder" is a heck of a pitch. I'm interested!

Are mechanical keyboards becoming a way to show off like the programmer equivalent of loud truck exhaust?

The sound is satisfying yes, but with other people in mind I am looking for the quietest mechanical keyboard I can find these days. I have become self conscious about typing quietly during phone calls or meetings in case I am unmuted.

Re: New Beam Spring Keyboards

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Like a Model F, but louder" is a heck of a pitch. I'm interested!

Are mechanical keyboards becoming a way to show off like the programmer equivalent of loud truck exhaust? The sound is satisfying yes, but with other people in mind I am looking for the quietest mechanical keyboard I can find these days. I have become self conscious about typing quietly during phone calls or meetings in case I am unmuted.

I had to switch to low force choc couple years ago over tendon pain. Ended up on totem for day to day & bad wings for travel. 20g silent nocturnal switches. Silencing mechanism also gives bottom out a rubber feel, worth it just for that

Re: New Beam Spring Keyboards

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

My Endura Pro started having issues three months in after arriving to me in 2013; I remember how it was $99 and shipping was $98, and then I had to pay VAT on it. It died quite quickly after and become parts donor for old IBM Model Ms I bought out from people’s attics. It was a wonderfully repair-unfriendly thing, too.

Contrariwise, my unicomp model M has been going strong as a daily driver for at least 18 years. They may have lowered the quality more recently, and I'd recommend something in the cherry mx brown ballpark over it perhaps.

Many people swear by Unicomp, but I had that bad luck that I first paid for the thing, got the thing, and then read that as of recently, there had been problems. Problems with quality, problems with output. Then they went so quiet people thought they had gone out of business, then they resurfaced. By that time, I've had an original Model M and two different OG Model Fs. When I buy old stuff from eBay, at least I have my expectations calibrated to the fact that this shit is real old.

Your unit must have been a couple years older than mine, so it just might be of that more legendary quality. Yours is from at least 2008, right? You may even had got it before markets went bonkers!

Re: New Beam Spring Keyboards

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Some keys won’t work right away – you are responsible for making this keyboard work Do not use any beam spring keyboard in a mission-critical environment. I can say this is the first time I've seen this in the sales description for a keyboard. Are these assembled from NOS parts?

Having dealt with this vendor in the past he uses verbiage like this to weasel out of INAD claims (eg. if something is defective he’ll just point to this and deny your return) - I wouldn’t trust him with a $400 keyboard

Re: New Beam Spring Keyboards

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post #11

In the meantime, I would remind the people who would like to experience a vintage keyboard to take a look at the Unicomp model M keyboards. They are not Model Fs or beam spring, but are rock solid, reliable, and sensibly priced considering their quality.

> considering their quality Has their finishing improved at all? A coworker bought one, maybe 15 years ago. He has to spend time with a file to remove all the remnants of the molding process. I'd expect a nearly $200 keyboard to feel finished and not have sharp pieces poking out all over the place. I've long thought about getting a Unicomp, but seeing how poorly finished they were always gave me pause and made me que…

Yes, they're way better now! The quality was poor because they were using decades-old original IBM tooling, and injection molds don't last forever D:. But, they made new molds in, I think, 2020? I bought a New Model M in 2021. Mine has a custom-printed layout, and it looks stock, not just some one-off. The plastic chassis is sturdy and doesn't need any sort of filing. It's been my daily driver ever since and is my favorite keyboard I've ever used, so I happily recommend them to any typing enthusiast. Sooo much better than Cherry switches (or, dog forbid, "office" keyboard rubber domes).

Re: New Beam Spring Keyboards

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Note that Ellipse/modelfkeyboards is notorious in the keyboard community for poor quality control and support. The keyboards often come misaligned or damaged in shipping, and it's up to you to fix them. I'm not sure about their beam spring keyboards, but their Model F keyboards come without keycaps installed, meaning that the keys haven't even been tested to actuate properly before the keyboard is shipped. If you have the money and free time, you can usually turn what you receive into a working product with enough tweaking. You just have to keep in mind that you'll be paying over $400 for a keyboard that may arrive broken, and if it does you will have as close to no warranty as what's legally possible. If you dig around on forums and in comments you can find a bunch of examples of this, but here's a decent summary: https://consumerrights.wiki/w/Model_F_Labs

Re: New Beam Spring Keyboards

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Awesome! I'm happy I have a future option in case my 3727 ever wears out (which I somehow can't see ever happening...).

I'm not associated with this project in any way, but I'm excited to see the Beamspring (and Model F capsense stuff) is still ticking along. I keep meaning to redesign my controller for the 2020s but the original crappy design keeps working perfectly for my needs and I can't justify the time to update it. I'd love to do something dumb like throw an FPGA at the problem or try and use the RP2350 PIO. I don't think we ever matched what IBM's original ASIC achieved.

Re: New Beam Spring Keyboards

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post #27

Note that Ellipse/modelfkeyboards is notorious in the keyboard community for poor quality control and support. The keyboards often come misaligned or damaged in shipping, and it's up to you to fix them. I'm not sure about their beam spring keyboards, but their Model F keyboards come without keycaps installed, meaning that the keys haven't even been tested to actuate properly before the keyboard is shipped. If you hav…

Thanks for posting this. I've been looking at getting one but this has made me pause.

Re: New Beam Spring Keyboards

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post #11

In the meantime, I would remind the people who would like to experience a vintage keyboard to take a look at the Unicomp model M keyboards. They are not Model Fs or beam spring, but are rock solid, reliable, and sensibly priced considering their quality.

> considering their quality Has their finishing improved at all? A coworker bought one, maybe 15 years ago. He has to spend time with a file to remove all the remnants of the molding process. I'd expect a nearly $200 keyboard to feel finished and not have sharp pieces poking out all over the place. I've long thought about getting a Unicomp, but seeing how poorly finished they were always gave me pause and made me que…

I have bought a Unicomp keyboard 7 years ago, had none of those problems, it works as well now as the day I bought it.
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