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Re: Meta launches Instagram, Facebook, and WhatsApp subscriptions

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It's insane that those subscriptions don't remove ads. That's the only thing I would even remotely consider paying for on any meta product. In the current state those subscriptions will just show your friends that you're a huge loser who's willing to pay for custom backgrounds.

Why would they remove the ads from users who have proven that they would even pay for a Facebook subscription?

Re: Meta launches Instagram, Facebook, and WhatsApp subscriptions

#92
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Yeah, I was asking how you got so many players.

Forgive me for not wanting to write up the history of the game's development. It boils down to product market fit, innovation, and fantasy fulfillment/fun. See for yourself: https://store.steampowered.com/app/2287430/Metropolis_1998/

The game looks great. Thanks for sharing

Re: Meta launches Instagram, Facebook, and WhatsApp subscriptions

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post #93

Just use email...

This is a brilliant take. I was talking to friends the other day and we were reminiscing about the old days where you'd email and phone people. And if there was a family event you'd shove a quite write up and some photos on your personal web site and email the links out to people. Some parts of the family would mail a newsletter around periodically.

We decided to do the same again.

Re: Meta launches Instagram, Facebook, and WhatsApp subscriptions

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are years behind. It was in 2016 that, when traveling and wanting to exchange contacts with cool local people I met, I first began to get the response “My e-mail address? I don’t have email.” Already then many younger people were only on social media, and it was expected that you would exchange those contacts. And some countries never had the email moment at all, so even older people don’t use it. Ditto for phone…

What's actually being said is that these people are not your friends/family and probably shouldn't be. That definitely sounds harsher than intended. It's a meditation really. Nobody needs FB and Instagram. (please read as a meditation)

"just don't meet people because they don't communicate via your one specific method"

Re: Meta launches Instagram, Facebook, and WhatsApp subscriptions

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Just stop using Meta products. It's really not as hard as it seems. Nobody needs FB to communicate with friends and family. Send texts or emails or use your phone.

I don’t know about other places, but in SF, everything around schools is coordinated over WhatsApp—you’d be really doing your children a disservice to opt out. And I hate it. I had deactivated all my Meta accounts but reactivated WhatsApp because of school stuff.

Tell your school board to use a dedicated messaging platform built for schools. Cite privacy laws. That's what I did, and it worked.

Unless you're talking about parent groups. Because then you're fucked. Every parent group everywhere uses Facebook or Whatsapp and don't care that not everybody uses it. You will be excluded.

Re: Meta launches Instagram, Facebook, and WhatsApp subscriptions

#98
I'm going to go against the grain here and say this is probably a positive thing for Meta products, and honestly every other "free" service to provide these kinds of revenue avenues.

How many times do we hear things like "if the product is free, you are the product" - well, the consequence of that is development resources tend to be pulled into directions that benefit advertisers.

By having material subscription revenue coming in for things outside the advertising space, the product managers can justify investing in features that otherwise would be passed up due to lack of revenue potential from advertising.

Yes, in many ways Meta gets to have their cake and eat it too, because the ads are still there even with the plans, but this does give a meaningful voice to their customers who pay that they can invest in other ways outside of strictly advertising.

Re: Meta launches Instagram, Facebook, and WhatsApp subscriptions

#99
post #93

Just use email...

My Mom (70s, retired special ed teacher) got the family on Signal and it's a breeze to do video calls or send pictures/messages to people.

They occasionally have a donation popup but it's one of the easiest and least intrusive programs I've ever used, and it just works.

Re: Meta launches Instagram, Facebook, and WhatsApp subscriptions

#100
I'd have been happy to pay for a WhatsApp-like service if they had not been acquired. Flawless service for like a decade, no complains. Only issue was the difficulty of moving between Android and iOS.

Meta? Fuck off. We all know they're already doing awful stuff with our data, they've had more bugs last year than all of whatsapps previous history combined, and whatever price they request now is step one for enshittification.

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