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Having your insulin pump die while you're on vacation

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Re: Having your insulin pump die while you're on vacation

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One issue here which is obvious to me is that access to insulin should not be gated on paperwork . I can walk into any pharmacy in Canada and say "I'm diabetic and need insulin" and the pharmacist will sell it to me. They'll ask questions of course since this is not the usual path but my doctor's office being open will have no influence on whether I get it -- just on whether it's a 5 minute process or a 15 minute pro…

Is that true for every type and format? You can walk into walmart and get regular and NPH insulin over the counter, no questions asked. Newer ones require a Rx. I do think that the US is obnoxiously conservative, and far more medications should be OTC. Instead, you cant even buy kidney friendly cat food without an expensive Rx from a vet and tons of controls. Heaven forbit someone buy it without proper consultation.…

> you cant even buy kidney friendly cat food without an expensive Rx from a vet and tons of controls

There are a few law suits over this. Essentially, the claim is that they call it "prescription," but it has no prescription medications in it and isn't approved by the FDA to treat anything. So if you have an extra bag and sell it, this is OK since it isn't actually a drug, it's allegedly a price fixing scheme between vets and pet food makers.

Re: Having your insulin pump die while you're on vacation

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the correct answer here is that they are all accountable. there is not some fixed quantity of blame to divvy up: each malfunctioning leg is responsible for the outcome.

They all contribute but they can’t all have the same degree of accountability.

I think the GP's point is that accountability/responsibility isn't a substance, it doesn't have to be conserved like energy or momentum. I agree with them.

It would be perfectly valid for the law to be that individuals don't need to unpick the corporate web of relationships, but hold any of those who contributed (above some size threshold) culpable for the whole injury, and leave the corporates to arm wrestle about how culpability is assigned between them.

Re: Having your insulin pump die while you're on vacation

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Some random thoughts on this situation which I have been in as well.

- bring lantus pens

- bring a backup pump. If you've been on a pump for more than 5 years you've probably gotten a new pump because the old one went out of warranty coverage. I have 2 old pumps which still work in an emergency (although without closed-loop - they will still do basal and bolus).

- regarding being forced to prime 10 units of insulin out of the tandem x2 just to use the existing cartridge when the tube is already full of insulin. This has always annoyed me as well. If you are in a pinch or really don't want to waste insulin what I've done is take the needle part off a two-part syringe (assuming you have that kind) and stick the end of the pump tube (the coupling part of the pump site) into the hole of the syringe and prime directly into it. Then you can put the needle back on the syringe and inject the primed insulin back into your insulin bottle.

Re: Having your insulin pump die while you're on vacation

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This is literally the reason I'm still on multiple daily injections (MDI). I'm sympathetic to the author, I spent 50+ years without Type 1, and a few with it. Just this morning, I ended up bolusing correctly, but then an emergency caused me to perform a lot more exercise than I had planned on. Then, bam, I'm paralyzed in bed, thinking about calling the ambulance, eating sour patch kids. And believe me, when sour patc…

I'm on a pump but always take backup insulin pens and needles when I travel, so that I can switch to MDI if needed. My QOL with a pump is so much better than it was with a decade+ of MDI.

Re: Having your insulin pump die while you're on vacation

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I had an X2 (and before that, a couple of Minimed pumps), then I switched to the Omnipod. The Omnipod is a disposable pump you swap out every 3 days, so less of an issue. However every time I've gotten a new pump, the diabetes educators always instruct you to have a backup plan, whether that's your insulin vial you may have already brought (even non-disposable pumps require you to swap out the reservoir every 3 days,…

Also on the Omnipod, and I also always travel with both extra pods AND extra insulin pens (basal and bolus insulin). That way I can switch back to MDI if for whatever reason my pods fail or I can't use them.

Re: Having your insulin pump die while you're on vacation

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Some random thoughts on this situation which I have been in as well. - bring lantus pens - bring a backup pump. If you've been on a pump for more than 5 years you've probably gotten a new pump because the old one went out of warranty coverage. I have 2 old pumps which still work in an emergency (although without closed-loop - they will still do basal and bolus). - regarding being forced to prime 10 units of insulin o…

Amen…Bring a lantus pen.

Lantus alone is going to keep do a majority of the work from keeping going into DKA.

Insulin pumps are going to fail. They are mechanical devices. Batteries fails. The connected phone can fail. At some point in a diabetic lifetime…it is going to break.

The entire reason most patients are taught with subcutaneous insulin is at the start is that there is good chance complex tech will break.

As healthcare providers we get this - we see these patients on the weekly. As patients you may only get experience it once in your lifetime…. Technology will always break at the most inconvenient time. You need to have a back up plan with your health. SQ insulin is the back up plan.

Re: Having your insulin pump die while you're on vacation

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Friend, you’re diabetic.

Your survival is ultimately your own responsibility. Prepare yourself for a few hard truths.

No one — including nurses and doctors who are not specifically trained in diabetes management — truly knows your situation.

I had a TIA. I was barely functioning, hospitalized, semi-conscious. Not a single person in the ER, nor during the entire week I was admitted, stopped to think that maybe I wasn’t mentally fit to manage my own CGM.

Always be prepared.

I once found myself in what my company had sold to me as a “hotel” in Germany. It was really more of a shack. I was having a severe hypo, glucose at 70 and dropping fast. There was no lobby, everything was closed, emergency services didn’t speak English, and I couldn’t even find a taxi willing to come out there.

I ended up licking sugar crumbs and biscuit dust that had accumulated over the years in the pocket of my suitcase.

Your CGM can fail. In fact, it will almost certainly fail while you’re on vacation on some Greek island with no signal.

You must know how to manage your blood sugar with insulin pens. Even with different insulin types. You need conversion charts. You need the phone number of your diabetes center so you can get proper instructions. You must be able to change an infusion set in the dark, slightly drunk, like Rambo — except this isn’t a movie.

You need to remember your insulin-to-carb ratio and be able to estimate the carbohydrates in a dish you’ve never seen before.

I’m lucky enough to be able to “feel” my blood sugar. More importantly, I can sense when I’m heading toward a hypo, and I do everything I can to preserve that personal superpower.

As we say in Italy, being diabetic is serious business.

My colleagues and friends see only the outside. They see a well-managed condition, an HbA1c of 6. They laugh when I tell some of the more extreme stories.

But they have no idea — absolutely no idea — how difficult our lives are.

Ours, and our families’.

Re: Having your insulin pump die while you're on vacation

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Hey, this happened to me about two years ago! Forgot I was wearing my pump and walked into the ocean. Oops. I was on a Greek island during Easter weekend - the worst possible time and way to need emergency medical care.

One thing I now do is always travel with one of my old insulin pumps. They may be 5, 10, even 15 years old, but they take the same infusion sets and all they need is a fresh AA/AAA battery and they’re as good as new. Thank you to the medical devices industry for making some resilient AF kit.

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