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I'm So Tired of Ads

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Re: I'm So Tired of Ads

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I don't really see that many ads to be honest. I'm not on social media (except HN), I use Adblock, plus I just don't consume a lot of the media that the general population does. I totally understand what the article is about though... I went on to my wife's instagram and her ad load is unbelievable. She probably has to look at 1 ad for ever 3 reels or images or whatever the hell they call them. I couldn't imagine hav…

> I don't really see that many ads to be honest. I'm not on social media (except HN), I use Adblock, plus I just don't consume a lot of the media that the general population does.

If you are in any urban area, your eyes will be blasted with "PURCHASE ME! PURCHASE ME!" visuals all the time, you cannot escape it. Just take a trip via Munich Main Station to transit from the regional trains to the subway [1]. It's not enough that the entire passenger transit area is lined with shopfronts with all sorts of lights, screens and other attempts to get your attention, it's not enough that there are huge flatscreens with video everywhere, no... even the concrete pillars are covered with ads nowadays.

[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/drehscheibe/comments/1tijdui/das_mi...

Re: I'm So Tired of Ads

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What would constitute "consent" to being communicated information to? With physical contact, speech can signal consent or lack thereof. How would you consent to speech itself?

People actively seek information. People don't seek out advertising noise. They avoid such audiovisual pollution quite actively, so much so that corporations get paid in order to force the noise in front of people's eyeballs.

It's that forceful nature that violates consent. I came to HN to see comments from technologists on random stories as well as cool Show HN posts. So someone showing off a project here isn't advertising, it's just the exact information I asked for. It's when that person pays money to put his project in front of me while I'm browsing news or something that it turns into a massive problem.

The key is to differentiate noise from signal, advertising from information. Advertising is always noise they add to signal in order to get paid. Our brains aren't supposed to be sinks for their noise. Our cognitive functions are absolutely sacred.

Re: I'm So Tired of Ads

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I hate ads but they're intrinsic to media culture, fact you need 10 minutes of video media to wake up, go to the bathroom, at work, to decide dinner with your spouse, and then immediately when you get home etc. I'm not judging but you are not really going to great lengths to avoid ads.

Re: I'm So Tired of Ads

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This reminds me of a time long ago when i first found out about uBlock Origin “Medium mode” [1] Daily browsing, searching, reading webpages and such is a lot better when using it.

It’s amazing to see how many webpages you can just read without any 3th party scripts being loaded at all. And in case you do need them, it’s a simple keyboard shortcut to load them (= Relax mode).

Other than that, i stopped “consuming” many kinds of media that have ads in them (radio stations, media streaming, etc.) If it has ads, i simply dont’t use it.

[1] https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Blocking-mode:-medium...

Re: I'm So Tired of Ads

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I use an adblocker and I have for a while now. Every so often I hear a moral argument about why adblockers are bad (ads support free internet, etc) but to be completely honest, I simply don't care anymore. Advertising is in such a malicious state that yes, I'm going to put my own experience quality over whatever collective good there is in watching ads.

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How far would you push this argument?

Is it mind rape to hold up a political sign in a public square, because they are forcing their opinions into other people who happen to be there?

Re: I'm So Tired of Ads

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How far would you push this argument? Is it mind rape to hold up a political sign in a public square, because they are forcing their opinions into other people who happen to be there?

My extreme arguments are generally reserved for businesses who are profiting off the abuse. People demonstrating could definitely fall into the unwanted noise category depending on what you believe, but I'm not going to go extreme on them for it.

Besides, demonstrations are easily avoided and ignored. They go to the public square to demonstrate. They don't generally go to your house. Advertisers absolutely would go to your house. They are the sort of people who would calculate the exact viewing angle you have when you look out the window of your home and then set up a billboard covering that exact area so as to mine out every last dime your eyeballs can possibly give. They're the sort of people who'd set up hidden cameras in the house across the street purely so they can monitor you to estimate the number of times you look out your windows every day, all so they can sell the chance to be seen by you to some highest bidder.

Re: I'm So Tired of Ads

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I started using a self-hosted RSS reader (which is how I found your article) with curated lists of things. I used to read Google Chrome's feed articles but they are a trash fire of bullshit now.

Next, I'm going to try search indexing my own version of a very small Internet and possibly leaving Firefox because they are becoming nearly as dong-thirsty as Chrome.

My dad called me yesterday in a tiff because some crazy idiot on a random streaming app he somehow downloaded to his Samsung phone was trying to convince him to listen to a song on Spotify and he couldn't even figure out how to follow the directions in the ad. Or maybe it was Samsung AI making something up? Or maybe he's been hacked and it wasn't even my dad? I can't even tell anymore.

This coincided with the 80th ducking permission/password/2fa popup of the day on my phone, so I was cooked.

Re: I'm So Tired of Ads

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How far would you push this argument? Is it mind rape to hold up a political sign in a public square, because they are forcing their opinions into other people who happen to be there?

You-know-it-when-you-see-it might be a good boundary. It's different for everyone, surely.

Personally I find the Protect The Children charity workers and anti-abortion protesters in large city squares to be right on the line of "mind mild-assault."

TBH the charity people are worse than the anti-abortion protesters because they force images of unfortunate kids into my mind and makes me feel bad. The anti-abortion people are almost quaint to me.

Re: I'm So Tired of Ads

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I use an adblocker and I have for a while now. Every so often I hear a moral argument about why adblockers are bad (ads support free internet, etc) but to be completely honest, I simply don't care anymore. Advertising is in such a malicious state that yes, I'm going to put my own experience quality over whatever collective good there is in watching ads.

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"mind rape". How absurd and inflammatory. The notion of consent here is just ridiculous. Nobody is forcing you to use the Internet, you're happy enough to consume free online services, but then melt down when you see an ad.
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