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Re: Meta launches Instagram, Facebook, and WhatsApp subscriptions

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Post by DANmode »

lukeschlather wrote: post #51
tim-projects wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pay each of your friends $50 one per month, to switch to signal. Problem solved

Signal is designed with the assumption that data is sensitive and you should err on the side of destroying it. Facebook is designed more as a shared scrapbook, with the assumption that data is precious and you want to share it with your community, and you should err on the side of oversharing so you don't lose any precious moments. Signal is in no way a replacement for Facebook.

It is if Facebook was never a good fit for you in the first place.

Re: Meta launches Instagram, Facebook, and WhatsApp subscriptions

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Post by tim-projects »

lukeschlather wrote: post #51
tim-projects wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pay each of your friends $50 one per month, to switch to signal. Problem solved

Signal is designed with the assumption that data is sensitive and you should err on the side of destroying it. Facebook is designed more as a shared scrapbook, with the assumption that data is precious and you want to share it with your community, and you should err on the side of oversharing so you don't lose any precious moments. Signal is in no way a replacement for Facebook.

> Signal is designed with the assumption that data is sensitive and you should err on the side of destroying it.

That's... Just not true

> Facebook is designed more as a shared scrapbook

Have you used Facebook in the last 5 years? Its nothing like this at all.

Re: Meta launches Instagram, Facebook, and WhatsApp subscriptions

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Post by figglestar »

iLoveOncall wrote: post #17

It's insane that those subscriptions don't remove ads. That's the only thing I would even remotely consider paying for on any meta product. In the current state those subscriptions will just show your friends that you're a huge loser who's willing to pay for custom backgrounds.

People who pay subscriptions are exactly the sort of people you want to advertise to the most since they've signaled they have money. It's like flashing a big wad of cash in a seedy bar.

Re: Meta launches Instagram, Facebook, and WhatsApp subscriptions

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Post by alex1138 »

drnick1 wrote: post #46

Just stop using Meta products. It's really not as hard as it seems. Nobody needs FB to communicate with friends and family. Send texts or emails or use your phone.

Actually it... is but not (just) for the reasons people give (social utility)

You delete a FB acct? It reactivates. Fun! Almost like the company is built off fraud

Re: Meta launches Instagram, Facebook, and WhatsApp subscriptions

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Post by hgoel »

fsflover wrote: post #55
dreamcompiler wrote: post #38

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This works for friends and family members who are computer geeks. Signal for everybody else.

I don't see what's missing in Matrix. Yes, the verification may be somewhat cumbersome, but I helped to deal with it, and it just works now.

A friend and I have been running a private Matrix server for almost a decade now, it's very lacking in comparison to what the average chat user (especially discord) is used to.

No custom emojis, no self-chat, embeds are inconsistent (e.g. encrypted rooms), multi-image uploads aren't a thing in many clients, adding text when sending an attachment isn't a thing, just to name things we've run into over the years. Most of these have been brought up to the devs many years ago, only to spend forever in spec hell and never actually make it into a release.

We're just tolerating these, because we explicitly moved off discord to have control over our data, but being tech savvy we can handle this. It's nowhere near good enough that I could use it with less savvy people.

Re: Meta launches Instagram, Facebook, and WhatsApp subscriptions

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Post by lostlogin »

rkomorn wrote: post #59
lostlogin wrote: post #40

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> Pay each of your friends $50 one per month It an outlay of $50 a moth. Probably better to pay 50/number of friends though.

$50 a moth? How about just a lightbulb and an open window?

It took me several re reads to get it.

Re: Meta launches Instagram, Facebook, and WhatsApp subscriptions

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Post by canyp »

pj_mukh wrote: post #11

I would pay $49.99/mo for an unlimited plan that brings me only my friends' status updates (not their hyper-political likes and comments), just their life updates. Daily stories are great too. But JUST that, no influencers, no ads. I realize Meta's data shows that our user revealed preferences tells them that we like all the dopamine hijacking garbage but that's like saying "Well users like drugs, so we gave them mor…

Why? You are still giving up privacy. There is 0 reason to be using Meta products, let alone pay for them.

Re: Meta launches Instagram, Facebook, and WhatsApp subscriptions

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Post by Iuz »

drnick1 wrote: post #46

Just stop using Meta products. It's really not as hard as it seems. Nobody needs FB to communicate with friends and family. Send texts or emails or use your phone.

I'm thinking about it, but WhatsApp has a real hold on the Brazilian population. Removing it would mean losing the primary way my family and many people I know communicate. It’s ubiquitous here, sadly.

Re: Meta launches Instagram, Facebook, and WhatsApp subscriptions

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Post by captn3m0 »

pj_mukh wrote: post #11

I would pay $49.99/mo for an unlimited plan that brings me only my friends' status updates (not their hyper-political likes and comments), just their life updates. Daily stories are great too. But JUST that, no influencers, no ads. I realize Meta's data shows that our user revealed preferences tells them that we like all the dopamine hijacking garbage but that's like saying "Well users like drugs, so we gave them mor…

Meta offers it in EU: https://about.fb.com/news/2024/11/facebook-and-instagram-to-...

I’ve been considering it but I am not sure if it drops just ads or suggested posts as well.

Re: Meta launches Instagram, Facebook, and WhatsApp subscriptions

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Post by lukeschlather »

tim-projects wrote: post #62
lukeschlather wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Signal is designed with the assumption that data is sensitive and you should err on the side of destroying it. Facebook is designed more as a shared scrapbook, with the assumption that data is precious and you want to share it with your community, and you should err on the side of oversharing so you don't lose any precious moments. Signal is in no way a replacement for Facebook.

> Signal is designed with the assumption that data is sensitive and you should err on the side of destroying it. That's... Just not true > Facebook is designed more as a shared scrapbook Have you used Facebook in the last 5 years? Its nothing like this at all.

> Have you used Facebook in the last 5 years? Its nothing like this at all.

I use it all the time. Yesterday I was talking to a friend, and we were reminiscing about visiting another friend's house, and we looked up some old birthday party invitations to help us remember when we had been there.

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