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The solution might be cancelling my AI subscription

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Re: The solution might be cancelling my AI subscription

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Post by throwatdem12311 »

Every time I try to let Claude go off and do stuff on its own it’s always pinging me to approve something. Even in auto mode. Impossible to really run at length without either constantly having your focus broken, or just running it with permissions disabled. I do it in a container from time to time, but then by the time I get back to it sometimes there’s just so much slop it’s impossible to reason.

It’s a way of working that I really despise and if it’s the future of the profession I want nothing to do with it.

Re: The solution might be cancelling my AI subscription

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Post by iainctduncan »

I wonder how many of the responses here bifurcate by age. The post resonates with me, but I am now in my early fifties. When I was in my 20's and 30's, I would have happily chased rabbits down all those holes, but now that time seems so brutally finite, I feel that anything encouring me to spend time on stuff other than what really matters is a strong negative. (Where "what matters" includes work, family, friends, and recreation).

When friends start dying within 10 years of your age, it's a hell of a wake up.

"I wish I'd made more throw away apps I never use" ... said no one on their death bed, ever.

Re: The solution might be cancelling my AI subscription

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Post by throwatdem12311 »

hparadiz wrote: post #51
mrkeen wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OP paid a machine to have those moments instead of him.

As opposed to the old days when people would just blindly copy/paste random shit from Stackoverflow? Ya'll need to stop with this cope. It's not a good look.

Once you reach a certain skill level you really didn’t ever visit SO anymore. I basically just live in Postgres, Redis, Ruby and Rails documentation. Still do.

Re: The solution might be cancelling my AI subscription

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Post by skydhash »

hparadiz wrote: post #58
JoshTriplett wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> As opposed to the old days when people would just blindly copy/paste random shit from Stackoverflow? Many of the people who are complaining about AI vibecoding today also didn't blindly copy/paste from StackOverflow in the past.

I'm sure they were blindly accepting the Assembly coming out of the compiler.

Where do you think those bugs reports for gcc and others come from? Some people do look at the assembly coming out of the compilers.

Currently the openbsd mailing list for port is currently going through a clang update and one of the main point is looking at all the packages that failed to build. I even took a long look at the usb stack and the audio subsystem of OpenBSD because of an issue I was having with my DAC.

Re: The solution might be cancelling my AI subscription

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Post by gabrieledarrigo »

spudlyo wrote: post #52

> It's a thermonuclear ADHD amplifier and I have seen the same effect in every single one of my adult friends. You make this sound like a bad thing. ADHD isn't always about attention deficit, although it is right there in the name. It's more about attention dysregulation. For those of us prone to hyperfocus, working with AI can provide the kinds of stimulation we crave. I can hardly remember a time when I've felt mor…

> I actually enjoy the collaborative programming process, and was pair programming with folks before the term was coined

Yep, the same here, I'm a long pair programming enjoyer, but I'd like to raise that collaboration is usually meant with a human being in the context of pp, and prompting and agent to execute a task is nothing like that.

Re: The solution might be cancelling my AI subscription

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Post by techblueberry »

jmward01 wrote: post #25

Wow. To me the point of code has always been the crazy ideas and playing around. I love to create just for me and every once in a while for others is ok too. If you only think of code as 'a tool to build useful things' and everything else as wasted then sure, this is the philosophy for you. However, creating a bunch of random not going to follow up on it but I explored and played moments seems like a plus and not a n…

It’s not binary, it’s a plus until it’s not. I agree with the author that the problem is “what happens if code is free” can change the incentives so much you forget why you were there in the first place.

You’re very reasonable response may be “well, why don’t you just do more of what you want to do and less of what you don’t want to do” but that’s not how incentives work.

You could talk about revealed preferences, and how obviously if this person did these things maybe that’s obviously what he wanted to do. And great, feel good about that.

There’s an uncomfortable reality for most of us normies (maybe not popular with the libertarian HN crowd) that an increase in freedom can make it much more difficult to find meaning and purpose. Friction can be good actually.

I do theorize that this is one of the mechanisms by which productivity could be tanked by AI.

Re: The solution might be cancelling my AI subscription

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Post by skydhash »

elliotbnvl wrote: post #42
xendo wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I work with AI everyday, despite what many people suggest there is so little to learn. After a couple of hours you are good to go. You don't even need gstack.

This is patently false. I work with and on AI every day at multiple levels of the stack, and every day I'm learning massive new swathes of information. I'm honestly shocked how deep the field goes and how much more effective you can be with time. The floor is falling and the ceiling is rising and the gap between them is widening every day.

That would be more convincing if you put up two or more examples of what is there to learn.

Re: The solution might be cancelling my AI subscription

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Post by root-parent »

For 20 years, Google had access to infinite amount of human based Phds, and fresh computer science graduates, and effectively unlimited budgets...and have been "hiring the best" for 20 years straight.

This what they have been spending their human tokens on: https://killedbygoogle.com/

They are a decreasing quality searching engine who shows ads. It has never been about intelligence, or lack of resources. Its about incentives and execution.

Your AI wont save you, or make you rich or increase your productivity.

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