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Human brains are misaligned, hallucinative, stochastic parrots
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#12Oh this is too funny. Yes, silicon idiot, human brains are the result of a million years of evolution. Nobody said they were perfect. For example they make terrible mistakes. Like designing LLMs that "hallucinate" articles like this
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#13Ok, this is fun. Perhaps a little on-the-nose, but then again, so is much of the “AI isn’t really thinking, it’s just doing the same work and producing the same output” claptrap. The last couple of years have changed my thinking on lots of stuff, but the biggest and most disturbing one is a newfound doubt in my / our own sentience. Maybe there’s something ineffable there. Or maybe… not. Maybe it is all post hoc ratio…
Why would you doubt that you’re sentient? Your world model includes yourself and you can reason about yourself as part of the world so why should the ability of an AI model being able to also do that change your opinion on that? Don’t get why you think what consciousness is, I guess you look at something beyond the definition and whether there’s something special on the meta level but I don’t get how you could doubt that you’re conscious, it’s a straightforward property as far as I understand, it’s just nothing special.
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#14Ok, this is fun. Perhaps a little on-the-nose, but then again, so is much of the “AI isn’t really thinking, it’s just doing the same work and producing the same output” claptrap. The last couple of years have changed my thinking on lots of stuff, but the biggest and most disturbing one is a newfound doubt in my / our own sentience. Maybe there’s something ineffable there. Or maybe… not. Maybe it is all post hoc ratio…
>but the biggest and most disturbing one is a newfound doubt in my / our own sentience.
I think it depends on whether you are attributing sentience to be something that you imagine to be somehow transcendent, or if you think of it as just the descriptive term for what we are doing. For the latter it is undoubtable that we have it because that is literally what it means. It also becomes very difficult to come up with scenarios that say other things could never be sentient.
If you use the transcendent definition, then you can say that it is special, but it becomes very difficult(perhaps impossible) to describe what it is, and clearly impossible to prove that anyone has it. It is a truly ineffable thing which you may as well call Attribute Q, because you can't really draw any conclusions about what has it nor any conclusions about the things that have it and what they are like.
The only thing people use the ineffable thing for is as a club membership. The angst is worrying about if you are a member of a club that you don't really know anything about.
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#15Hume already went down this epistemological track in the 18th century. It is a complete dead end, resulting in philosophical skepticism. And even he handwaved it (with his famous billiards quote) and left it unresolved until Kant took a swing at it.
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#16Every time a big paradigm shift happens in technology, people try to find equivalences between brain/consciousness/humanness and the latest tech they can comprehend. We are “just” magic clay golems, mechanical contraptions not unlike a complex clock, convoluted electrical devices, inefficient analog computers, now just a form of “messy LLM” or “a stochastic parrot”
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Viruses are nature’s GPUs
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#18Ok, this is fun. Perhaps a little on-the-nose, but then again, so is much of the “AI isn’t really thinking, it’s just doing the same work and producing the same output” claptrap. The last couple of years have changed my thinking on lots of stuff, but the biggest and most disturbing one is a newfound doubt in my / our own sentience. Maybe there’s something ineffable there. Or maybe… not. Maybe it is all post hoc ratio…
If that's claptrap this is article sewage waste. On the nose is an understatement. It's not doing the same work, or producing the same output. It's an episodic response to specific requests. If you went into a coma between every question you were asked, you wouldnt be in a normal human state of consciousness either. This article pretends that we understand human brains as much as we understand the simple algorithms o…
>If you went into a coma between every question you were asked, you wouldnt be in a normal human state of consciousness either.
I don't think any one is saying AI has a normal human state of consciousness.
Nobody claims that people with anterograde amnesia are not conscious. Similarly, you could drug someone unconscious after every time they answer a single question. It's not a normal state of human consciousness, but I wouldn't want to say a person in that situation were not sentient.
It is true that there is much that we do not know about the human brain, but it is also true that many of the things that people describe as attributes that clearly disqualify AI have known analogues in humans.
From simple failures of perception in optical illusions, to the inability to notice quite significant changes in front of your eyes if the change happens during a saccade. There are a wide range of known limitations that humans have that reveal how much we overlook things we can't do, that when you consider them, reveals our own behaviour could be an more of an arrangement of systems than we would like to think.
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#19In beggining to think that there is some kind of human centric hubris that ends proved wrong by science.
We thought we were the center of the universe, and science showed us that we are not the center of our galaxy, not even our solar system.
Maybe with our thinking it's the same, we are not that special and we can something good enough just piling enough silicon.
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#20Ah yes just the kind of pretentious writing I would expect of a VC Associate. Great thought leadership there buddy.