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Show HN: Helios – what plug-in solar could generate for any address in Britain

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Re: Show HN: Helios – what plug-in solar could generate for any address in Britain

#31

Huh, TIL about the National LIDAR Programme: https://www.data.gov.uk/dataset/f0db0249-f17b-4036-9e65-3091... Very interesting stuff and quite a large undertaking! I'm often impressed by the quality of the UK's open data.

> I'm often impressed by the quality of the UK's open data. The ordnance survey not being open data is a bad look though.

I’ll add the UKHO Admiralty marine charts to this list too.

Re: Show HN: Helios – what plug-in solar could generate for any address in Britain

#32

Huh, TIL about the National LIDAR Programme: https://www.data.gov.uk/dataset/f0db0249-f17b-4036-9e65-3091... Very interesting stuff and quite a large undertaking! I'm often impressed by the quality of the UK's open data.

> I'm often impressed by the quality of the UK's open data. The ordnance survey not being open data is a bad look though.

Indeed. Taillte Ireland's (Ordnance Survey Ireland's) detailed cartographic data is also not open (including historic data - maps from the 1820s and 1920s!) and it's really a huge pain in the ass. On the other hand, OSM is in pretty good shape at least for topographic information. I've used it to make hiking maps here and nobody's died - as far as I know.

As a side note, I was one of the initial developers of the Irish national open data portal. Earlier today I had Claude look for similar LIDAR data for Ireland and I saw it pull from the site I built a dozen years ago and I was unreasonably pleased with myself :)

Re: Show HN: Helios – what plug-in solar could generate for any address in Britain

#33
Nice.

It would be nice to be able to pick the precise location on the map (house number appears not to work).

Also "ground floor" seems to say 1.5m off of the floor? I would like to tweak those values for e.g. panels on the floor in a garden.

Re: Show HN: Helios – what plug-in solar could generate for any address in Britain

#34
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> Worth it. The kit pays for itself in 7.1 years; over 20 years it's good for about £1,095 net. This is my issue with this sort of thing. Am I going to have this kit in 7 years? Or would I upgrade to better stuff at the technology improves?

Notice that the pricing will come down. In Germany (where the market is mature), I can buy a 2kWp system for 500-600 EUR. Then your payback time basically halves...

Re: Show HN: Helios – what plug-in solar could generate for any address in Britain

#35
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> Worth it. The kit pays for itself in 7.1 years; over 20 years it's good for about £1,095 net. This is my issue with this sort of thing. Am I going to have this kit in 7 years? Or would I upgrade to better stuff at the technology improves?

To me, 7.5 years is not worth it. and the 1K in 20 years is nothing. This should be the standard and it should be free. Until then we'll keep paying through the nose for energy...

Re: Show HN: Helios – what plug-in solar could generate for any address in Britain

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This is really nice! Would be great if it could handle regular rooftop solar calculations too.

Thanks! Should be doable, I just got excited by the new shiny thing first.

Be wary of these people: https://helioscope.aurorasolar.com/

Re: Show HN: Helios – what plug-in solar could generate for any address in Britain

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> Worth it. The kit pays for itself in 7.1 years; over 20 years it's good for about £1,095 net. This is my issue with this sort of thing. Am I going to have this kit in 7 years? Or would I upgrade to better stuff at the technology improves?

To me, 7.5 years is not worth it. and the 1K in 20 years is nothing. This should be the standard and it should be free. Until then we'll keep paying through the nose for energy...

Maybe you guys wouldn't be paying through the nose for energy if you had more solar.

Re: Show HN: Helios – what plug-in solar could generate for any address in Britain

#38
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> Worth it. The kit pays for itself in 7.1 years; over 20 years it's good for about £1,095 net. This is my issue with this sort of thing. Am I going to have this kit in 7 years? Or would I upgrade to better stuff at the technology improves?

The technology is unlikely to improve meaningfully in 7 years. And you'd only upgrade if it was a financial improvement so it makes complete sense to give an estimate based on keeping it for 20 years. I don't see what your issue is.

Then you are unlikely to be the person I'd be taking advice from.

Re: Show HN: Helios – what plug-in solar could generate for any address in Britain

#39
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I am just surprised about the cost? Kits in Germany are 300€ without a battery.

Surprised which way? Too cheap? Too expensive? Surprised things differ in price by country?

To expensive, 2x of a factor between countrys side by side is massive.

Esp. As the 300€ are more of an go to your nearest diy store and buy one, there are better deals out there.

Here is one for 239 effectively, including hanging hardware & everything you need.

https://www.mydealz.de/share-deal-from-app/2787366

Re: Show HN: Helios – what plug-in solar could generate for any address in Britain

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post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The technology is unlikely to improve meaningfully in 7 years. And you'd only upgrade if it was a financial improvement so it makes complete sense to give an estimate based on keeping it for 20 years. I don't see what your issue is.

Then you are unlikely to be the person I'd be taking advice from.

Let me rephrase: the thing that you said clearly isn't an issue so it doesn't make sense for you to have an issue with their advice.
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