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Post by testfrequency »

999900000999 wrote: post #189
testfrequency wrote: post #173

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Shame. Moderation on HN has been really heavy handed recently I’ve noticed. Don’t get me wrong, my friends are all making killer money…but they are also all out of therapy sessions, many are back on ADHD and SSRI meds, and the company seems to be full of egos and heavy handed mid management. I get the joy of meeting up with friends and their coworkers so I get to hear…a lot. More to life than money!

>More to life than money! That's why I want to make enough to retire early! In my 20s I wanted to retire by 40. In my 30s I want to retire by 45. Although I'm starting to understand the journey is just as important as the destination. I do have a fantastic low stress job currently.

It’s very much the journey, life is a journey. Much like learning is a life practice, so is happiness. Everything that makes you happy today will not be the same 20 years from now. The sooner you can find peace in simply being human, the more fulfilling your life will become. It’s cliche to say, but I find it honest and true.

Tech culture preys on making you feel inferior if you aren't loaded with RSUs and equity, but so many of these people hoarding wealth are miserable in real life but will never admit it as it’s their identity they’ve built up. They buy Porsches or homes just to feel something, or have something to show people.

Money at some point has diminishing returns, and once you have enough to be whatever your version of secure is, you should stop before you can’t even enjoy happiness. Until then, enjoy the process and do not look to others as it’s the theft of your own happiness.

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Post by zarzavat »

cmiles8 wrote: post #176

Sam Altman appears to represent a significant liability for OpenAI’s success from this point forward. A big portion of the driver for Anthropic’s meteoric rise over the last six months appears to be folks recognizing “it’s that AI startup not run by Sam Altman.” Anthropic has amazing tech, but its biggest asset at the moment seems to be that “it’s not OpenAI.” Not saying that’s right or wrong, but it’s clearly a fact…

What's incredible is that Anthropic are clearly not saints but Altman makes them look like the good guys, reinforcing their marketing.

When Anthropic had the dispute with the Department of War over very meek conditions (a truly moral AI company would not be engaged in war crimes in the first place), it was a test for Altman, all he had to do was to take the same position. But because he's a psychopath he failed that very basic test.

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Post by tempest_ »

MichaelZuo wrote: post #155
utopiah wrote: post #53

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Ah that's always SO fun. It doesn't matter how "smart" the person actually are (or think they are) we are ALL susceptible to influence and blind tests are shockingly simple to implement. Convinced you can distinguish A from B? Ok! No problem, let's try! Can be at the dinner table for fancy wine or with agents, it's all the same, you try an option, another option, maybe all options from the same, and if you reliably c…

Isn’t this obvious? Over half of HN commentators visibly struggle to piece 3 or more complex ideas together. How could anyone, who spent more than 30 minutes reading HN, expect otherwise?

HackerNews is social media and this is just representative of social media as a whole.

Critical thinking is at an all time low to start with but even if you attempt to think critically while using social media you cannot do it constantly. This is one of the problems with social media as a whole. You might notice one thing is not quite right and discard it but you cant do that constantly and eventually you will absorb one of the 15 posts or comments.

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Post by bluebands »

epistasis wrote: post #98
amazingamazing wrote: post #10

I never want to hear from developers again that they are not susceptible to marketing. I see meet ups specifically about Claude often. Modern tupperware party. A colleague was convinced Claude is better so we played a game. We used the claude code and codex harness and I implemented some prs they needed with gpt5.5 and opus4.7 and asked them to identify which came from which only from the code. Couldn’t tell. Edit: i…

Calling this a "tupper ware" seems a bit emotional, you're intentionally disregarding many things that matter for devs in order to try to claim equivalence, rather than paying attention to the actual process of software creation. For example in your "test" you're only looking at output and ignoring the entire process of creation. In addition to that process, you're ignoring that Claude Code was first and better for a…

Claude Code was first by a few weeks and only better for those few weeks! Have you used Codex in 2025?

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Post by epistasis »

amazingamazing wrote: post #213
epistasis wrote: post #98

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Calling this a "tupper ware" seems a bit emotional, you're intentionally disregarding many things that matter for devs in order to try to claim equivalence, rather than paying attention to the actual process of software creation. For example in your "test" you're only looking at output and ignoring the entire process of creation. In addition to that process, you're ignoring that Claude Code was first and better for a…

Tupperware party is a particular thing about the social framework around promoting corporate goods.

You might want to expand on that a bit.

Tupper ware parties were a way for housewives to make a bit of money on a pyramid scheme, socialize, and have fun.

Are you suggesting that Anthropic is giving kickbacks to devs that talk about their positive experiences with Claude Code? Seems false, so I don't think that's it. Are you saying people are having fun talking about Claude Code socially ans ann escape from their everyday routine? Also seems false Are you talking about how it's mere housewives that are supposedly easily susceptible to marketing? Or are you assuming that we all think housewives only bought Tupperware because they are mindless sheep? That seems to be what you are implying but I don't agree with either that characterization of housewives' tupper ware parties, as it's merely an emotional dismissive mid characterization, and I further disagree that even if it were a correct characterization of Tupper ware parties it's obviously nothing like anything I have seen anywhere with Claude Code, and I'm a freelancer with insight to several different sizes of companies and cultures over the past year.

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Post by _345 »

amazingamazing wrote: post #10

I never want to hear from developers again that they are not susceptible to marketing. I see meet ups specifically about Claude often. Modern tupperware party. A colleague was convinced Claude is better so we played a game. We used the claude code and codex harness and I implemented some prs they needed with gpt5.5 and opus4.7 and asked them to identify which came from which only from the code. Couldn’t tell. Edit: i…

Agree wholeheartedly. I think that Anthropic has just invested more effort in creating a better DevEx than OpenAI, and so people just "feel" that claude code is better but they're about the same really, claude code might be 5% better at best.

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Post by ixaxaar »

ignoramous wrote: post #186
Aurornis wrote: post #179

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The OP seems unaware that Claude had a lead in this space and captured market share and attention for that reason alone. The test they (supposedly) ran with their coworkers to look at PRs from both is such a bad way to compare LLMs that I don’t think they’re very experienced with using them.

> The OP seems unaware that Claude had a lead in this space I remember using GitHub Copilot (OpenAI "Codex" mk1) in Aug 2021 (ChatGPT would launch a year later 2 weeks after Meta's botched Galactica release). Cursor & others took it and ran a mighty good race.

Okay so regardless of the model, platforms provide attestation from end to end that nothing is being logged from either input or output, including at the firmware and OS level to the extent that the customers have proof of the data never being saved. AFAIK, both GPUs and TPUs support this.

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Post by bluebands »

brookst wrote: post #26
amazingamazing wrote: post #10

I never want to hear from developers again that they are not susceptible to marketing. I see meet ups specifically about Claude often. Modern tupperware party. A colleague was convinced Claude is better so we played a game. We used the claude code and codex harness and I implemented some prs they needed with gpt5.5 and opus4.7 and asked them to identify which came from which only from the code. Couldn’t tell. Edit: i…

This is like saying you gave a Taylor Swift fan sheet music from 1984 and from Michael Jackson’s thriller and they couldn’t tell the difference. I have a strong affinity for Claude Code because of the interaction experience and overall tone / vibe / process. I am 100% willing to believe the code it produces is identical or possibly less good than Codex. I enjoy working with Claude in a way I just don’t get from OpenA…

talk about the quiet part out loud

"yea it's dumber but it's nicer to me and i like the cool flashing colors so i'll use that"

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