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Posting a notice on your Facebook wall will not protect your privacy rights

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Re: Posting a notice on your Facebook wall will not protect your privacy rights

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Post by michael_michael »

The Snopes article also links to a page on a moonshine distillery website that claims to show you how to get diplomatic immunity: http://www.coppermoonshinestills.com/id53.html

Well worth reading for kicks, and reads more like a primer on how to make yourself a nuisance to local courts.

tl;dr You have to fill out some documents, notarize them, have state and federal judges sign them, and refuse any case you're involved in to be heard by magistrates in lower courts. In this way you'll be put on the "list" for diplomatic immunity although you are (presumably) not a diplomat. They even sell diplomatic corps car tags.

The legitimacy of the article is undermined by the fact that the author often spells "you" as "ya".

Re: Posting a notice on your Facebook wall will not protect your privacy rights

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Post by harel »

And by the way, company x will not donate a dollar to this poor cancer suffering baby for every like the photo gets, Mr mamboto will not transfer 25 trillion dollars to your bank account, and the Microsoft lottery was already won by the early share holders. I don't know why but every time I see those statuses and chain emails (same thing really) I lose faith in the common sense of humanity...

Re: Posting a notice on your Facebook wall will not protect your privacy rights

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Post by jhuckestein »

sillysaurus wrote: post #12
Shenglong wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your last point is actually quite alarming: I have often been told that in order to be successful, I should surround myself with people much smarter than I am. But, when I see all these Facebook notices and FREE $500 COSTCO GIFT CARD shares, I can't seem to shake the feeling that I have thus failed in life.

It's... complicated. Just remember that you don't have to actually use Facebook. You merely need Facebook. In other words, Facebook is your social network; it represents your circle of power. The more points you have on the circle, the more directions you can pivot in life. For example, often times the people who are the least capable can still be an advantage to you; they will be loyal to you, and they will help you…

Is it necessary for friends to "be an advantage" to you besides just being your friends? When you spend a lot of time in places like HN, you're at risk of succumbing to some kind of extremist lifestyle where you have to rationalize even who your friends are or use dumbbells while you're brushing your teeth because it saves time. This is not necessary.

I have friends from way back that can't relate to what I'm doing and will probably never "help" me in any way. However, when I go back home, I greatly enjoy spending time with them and for me that enough.

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Post by code_duck »

This is the third wave I've seen of this on facebook... at least it's better worded this time.

This pretty much proves what many of us knew: the average person has absolutely no idea about copyright or TOS agreements, and what rights they have or are signing away.

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Post by kaybe »

jhuckestein wrote: post #23
sillysaurus wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's... complicated. Just remember that you don't have to actually use Facebook. You merely need Facebook. In other words, Facebook is your social network; it represents your circle of power. The more points you have on the circle, the more directions you can pivot in life. For example, often times the people who are the least capable can still be an advantage to you; they will be loyal to you, and they will help you…

Is it necessary for friends to "be an advantage" to you besides just being your friends? When you spend a lot of time in places like HN, you're at risk of succumbing to some kind of extremist lifestyle where you have to rationalize even who your friends are or use dumbbells while you're brushing your teeth because it saves time. This is not necessary. I have friends from way back that can't relate to what I'm doing a…

In my eyes, that's also a kind of help.

Also, it is good for open-mindedness when not all people we hang out with come from the same group.

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Post by rhizome »

tolos wrote: post #14

So is "liking" something you don't -- intentionally corrupting their business (data) -- going to cause any repercussions?

Sure. In publishing this would be called "increasing takeup," which allows them to be paid at a higher rate.

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Post by Hannan »

TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #11
ck2 wrote: post #8

That little thing (sometimes huge thing) people put at the end of their emails that "this is confidential" is also pointless as you cannot enter into a confidentiality agreement that way.

I wish people would stop. It means in business emails there's a huge load of quoted confidentiality disclaimer stuff. Please people, 3-line signatures.

I've often wondered what the total size per year is for corporate email legal disclaimers, both bandwidth and residing on disk, world-wide. Personal signatures would be an interesting stat as well.

Does Exchange (or any other mail servers) have some sort of de-duplication process for intra-message text like this? The wasted space has to be enormous in aggregate, but maybe compared to headers, attachments, etc. it doesn't end up being that big of a deal, especially for a single organization.

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Post by Hannan »

smackfu wrote: post #13
ck2 wrote: post #8

That little thing (sometimes huge thing) people put at the end of their emails that "this is confidential" is also pointless as you cannot enter into a confidentiality agreement that way.

Maybe it's for the company to enforce against the employee. It shows the employee is aware the information they are sending is confidential.

The way I've seen it done usually is that the mail server tacks on the confidentiality notice after the user sends the message. So they would see it on a reply, but never on the initial message.

Maybe other companies show it to you on compose, I'm not sure.

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Post by pessimizer »

Shenglong wrote: post #6
dfxm12 wrote: post #2

The fact is that I'm not sure that people totally believe what they are doing will hold up in a court of law. The thought that it might and it is so easy to do, coupled with the herd mentality (all of their friends are doing it), make posting something like this seem to have no downside, but only upside. After all, wouldn't you hate to be the one rube whose privacy is invaded because you didn't simply post something…

Your last point is actually quite alarming: I have often been told that in order to be successful, I should surround myself with people much smarter than I am. But, when I see all these Facebook notices and FREE $500 COSTCO GIFT CARD shares, I can't seem to shake the feeling that I have thus failed in life.

That's the main reason I quit facebook. It made me think badly of people that I had fond memories of.

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Post by chollida1 »

ck2 wrote: post #8

That little thing (sometimes huge thing) people put at the end of their emails that "this is confidential" is also pointless as you cannot enter into a confidentiality agreement that way.

Our in house council told us that the sad things about email disclaimers is that while they are useless in the sense that if you send it to someone by accident people can't be held accountable to what you put in it, they do have value.

Unfortunately due to the proliferation of these notices, if you don't include one then someone may have more legal leeway to do what they want with the email.

So its a sort of it's useless but if you don't put it in then it can hurt you a little more than if you don't, so let's just include it anyway.

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