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What Is a Dickover?

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Re: What Is a Dickover?

#81

Did anyone else think this was a clever keming pun? Fortunately, for those sites where either JS is required for the content or to remove the dickover, browsers still have an Inspect Element tool that makes deleting this and other annoyances not too difficult and rather cathartic.

First time I saw the lesser case version of dickover I thought it said clickover.

Re: What Is a Dickover?

#82

I have a theory that about 97% of developers and managers completed the cookie consent (or whatever) on their own product 5 years ago and hence never see it again, and they have no idea how bad the experience for new customers actually is. So the developers and bosses all think they're doing a great job and they've got a carefully curated homepage, even though the regular users get a cloudflare captcha, then a cookie…

>modal

I think you mean dickover,sir.

Re: What Is a Dickover?

#83
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It's my computer, not yours. The browser is my user agent, not your server agent. If you don't want me viewing your page according to my preferences, then the world wide web is not the right medium for you to be working in. Go write a native app and try to convince people to install it. Once you serve up the contents of a web page to my user agent, you have consented to letting me digest that content however I want.

This is not a sense of "entitlement", it's just the fundamental reality of what the web is.

Re: What Is a Dickover?

#84

One of criteria for inclusion into Kagi Small Web [1] is no dickovers. Thanks for naming it properly John. [1] https://kagi.com/smallweb

Could you or someone working on this make it easier to share the original link for a small web post? It’s difficult to the point of making me think you’re trying to force me to share the Kagi version of the url.

Re: What Is a Dickover?

#85

I have a theory that about 97% of developers and managers completed the cookie consent (or whatever) on their own product 5 years ago and hence never see it again, and they have no idea how bad the experience for new customers actually is. So the developers and bosses all think they're doing a great job and they've got a carefully curated homepage, even though the regular users get a cloudflare captcha, then a cookie…

one of the more memorable stories from the daily wtf was from a dev at a banner ad company who got called into a VP's office and yelled at at great length because some pop-up banner was broken. after investigation it turned out the VP had installed an ad blocker and forgotten about it.

Re: What Is a Dickover?

#86
post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh we care, but when it comes to cookie dickovers, we care more about making the corporate lawyers happy. I’ll admit that I definitely like collecting my paycheck much more than I worry about customer annoyance at acknowledging a cookie policy. Some hills ain't worth dying on.

Or your company could respect its users and only use cookies for essential site functions. Then you don't need a dickover.

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Re: What Is a Dickover?

#87
post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh we care, but when it comes to cookie dickovers, we care more about making the corporate lawyers happy. I’ll admit that I definitely like collecting my paycheck much more than I worry about customer annoyance at acknowledging a cookie policy. Some hills ain't worth dying on.

Or your company could respect its users and only use cookies for essential site functions. Then you don't need a dickover.

The vast majority of users don’t know or care. The ones who do are blocking the cookies anyways. No one wins with these popups (except trial lawyers and sellers of cookie consent SaaS, of course).

Re: What Is a Dickover?

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post #71
post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree, but being mildly offensive is kind of the point: makes it more memorable, and clearly differentiated from “popup” which is too broad and has many valid uses in an interface. Dickovers never have a valid reason to exist.

> makes it more memorable, and clearly differentiated from “popup” which is too broad and has many valid uses in an interface. Dickovers never have a valid reason to exist. This is hardly convincing. The author even describes it as a "popup" or a "popover" which is already descriptive enough without further explanation. It is just an "unwanted popup" or "unwanted popover". The fact he brought up a definition of that…

Unless it’s on cable.

Re: What Is a Dickover?

#90
post #47

Dickovers are annoying -- tell me, what's your solution? For me, a combination of a) not patronizing these sites, but when I have to b) some ad blockers help. Nothing seems to work well though.

I have a firm rule of leaving any website where I run into this behavior. No exceptions.
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