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Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by cynicalpeace »

solumunus wrote: post #835
cynicalpeace wrote: post #825

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Hm, what do you mean by "extremely limited and supervised"? I think absolute 0 is best for as long as possible. If you never introduce them to the drug, they'll never have the craving for it. That's obviously difficult, practically, and we like movies, so we'll watch about a movie a week... but even I feel that is too much.

They’re 4 and 3, currently it’s probably 30 minutes every other week for the older one. She doesn’t really ask for it yet, just a treat when we feel like it. We’ll also use them on the odd occasion we’re doing long travel. If you’re including regular TV, sounds like you are, they watch significantly more of that. At least some daily. I don’t think it’s nearly as damaging or addictive compared to phone/pad. It barely…

parent-to-parent: this is slippery slope territory

just imo, I can't control you. God bless your family :)

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by eks391 »

dmos62 wrote: post #652

Children and seniors are victimized by AI content on a huge scale. Regular adults like most of us here don't ever get such videos in their feeds. I saw kids spend many hours a day watching automatically generated videos. Not always AI-generated, sometimes it's AI-assisted and procedurally generated. It is quite unbelievable how vulnerable weaker minds, for the lack of a better term, are to AI content. I saw a group o…

My dad (senior) was tricked by some GTA footage because the game graphics looked realistic enough. Perhaps it was modded because it looked nicer than I remember it, but nonetheless I'm concerned for the inevitable confusion from AI, in the hopeful assumption that it isn't already affecting his judgement.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by kedean »

gregschlom wrote: post #744
jb1991 wrote: post #728

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Now I am super curious, I really need to see an example of one of these videos!

Here's a representative example that my father in law (in his 70s) shared with me the other day: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=puRg-4ZvNYs

"and nine sixty dollars is gone"

This isn't even well done. I also opened it in a private browsing window, and the ad I was served was the most obviously AI-generated slop hawking some kind of health drink...that was clearly just a badly generated bottle of apple cider vinegar (text on the bottle was all mangled but it's exactly the kind my grocery store sells), and the "doctor" speaking barely synced up with his voice. Do people falling for these just have no sense of the uncanny valley?

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by viccis »

galkk wrote: post #545
viccis wrote: post #530

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>What is the problem if somebody doesn’t seek the deep meaning or anything and enjoys whatever she enjoys If you need it to be explained to you why it's a tragedy that a person's curiosity can atrophy (or fail to develop) to the extent that she can't seek meaning in what she engages with every day for enjoyment, then you might not have met the minimum requirements for this conversation.

Nah, you’re not the person who decides that. Denied.

I actually am the person who decides it. Because I just did. What are you gonna do, stop me? Too late. I decided it.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by csallen »

ultrarunner wrote: post #203
csallen wrote: post #200

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You're wrong from your very premise. The world isn't going to shit. It's better than it's been at pretty much any time in human history, in almost every facet.

(Individual experiences may vary)

That's always going to be true no matter what trajectory the world is heading in.

The point is that, on average, individual experiences are improving, decade by decade. Humanity is doing a remarkable job.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by csallen »

makeitdouble wrote: post #241
csallen wrote: post #200

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You're wrong from your very premise. The world isn't going to shit. It's better than it's been at pretty much any time in human history, in almost every facet.

You're arguing the world is at its peak, they're arguing it's directed in a shit direction. You're not disproving them at this point.

There have always been bumps on the path upward. It's never been smooth. Doesn't change the fact that we're not going to shit, and that we haven't been going to shit for hundreds of years. Quite the opposite.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by csallen »

platevoltage wrote: post #299
csallen wrote: post #200

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You're wrong from your very premise. The world isn't going to shit. It's better than it's been at pretty much any time in human history, in almost every facet.

You could say it's trending up, but there is no way you can deny that we are in a regressive period.

I mean if you focus on the negative and ignore the positive (which is what many people + the media do), you could say it's overall a regressive period. But you could do that (and people have) literally every year for the past 80 years.

Yet, in the grand scheme of things, the world has gotten better in that time. Which is how you know these people are wrong, at least most of the time.

The challenge with positive news is that you have to go seek it out. It will rarely come to you. And then you have to greet it without cynicism, which many are incapable of.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by csallen »

madibo3156 wrote: post #262
csallen wrote: post #200

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You're wrong from your very premise. The world isn't going to shit. It's better than it's been at pretty much any time in human history, in almost every facet.

In theory you're right, in practice you're not.

I think it's the opposite

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by dmos62 »

cynicalpeace wrote: post #860
dmos62 wrote: post #859

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I disagree. I don't want kids to abbuse drugs, smoke, drink, or doomscroll. But, what do you accomplish from saying "don't do it"? You don't want to take away anyone's agency, right? Further, this is not only about kids, people of all ages are susceptible to these patterns of behavior. My message is basically, make it non-taboo, educate, give people tools to manage their behavior, prosecute predatory behaviors. To re…

"Don't take away agency!" proceeds to recommend the government take away agency the best thing that can be done right now, rather than waiting for a broken government to fix our problems, is to admit to ourselves and parents that kids should not receive phones or iPads it's not a good thing! taboos serve a purpose and it absolutely should be a cultural taboo.

I don't consider it a violation of agency if you forbid abuse of others. Agree to disagree.
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