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Danish Pension Blacklists SpaceX over 'Catastrophic Governance'

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Re: Danish Pension Blacklists SpaceX over 'Catastrophic Governance'

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It's really concerning given how the indexes are changing rules to fast-track SpaceX being forced into index funds. S&P is also working on updates to S&P 500 to force it down everyone's throats quickly and algorithmically.

Add Anthropic and OpenAI to the list. Companies that are bleeding money. Personally, a company should be making money before adding it to the index.

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Re: Danish Pension Blacklists SpaceX over 'Catastrophic Governance'

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It's really concerning given how the indexes are changing rules to fast-track SpaceX being forced into index funds. S&P is also working on updates to S&P 500 to force it down everyone's throats quickly and algorithmically.

There is a market for an S&P 500 ETF without those companies. I'll immediately switch over

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Good. Would love to buy SpaceX stock at a 90% discount after the IPO and the next tech / AI correction.

Imagine not wanting to own a piece of the first company to make a re-usable orbital class booster.

Yeah, I also don't want to eat a tasty morsel if you roll it around in the dirt and serve it up covered in bugs and hair.

And that's basically what SpaceX is right now after you account for xAI and twitter in the mix.

So I'd love to own a piece of the SpaceX from a decade ago - but the current offering smells pretty bad.

Combined with the fact that at this point, Musk clearly isn't opposed to running a business with dramatically inflated valuations based on vaporware, lies, & hype (cough - Tesla - cough) it just makes me far more skeptical than I might otherwise be.

I think caution is warranted here.

Essentially - I want to own the SpaceX that could have been if we didn't end up with the shoddy k-hole version of musk in charge of things.

Re: Danish Pension Blacklists SpaceX over 'Catastrophic Governance'

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post #6

Good. Would love to buy SpaceX stock at a 90% discount after the IPO and the next tech / AI correction.

Imagine not wanting to own a piece of the first company to make a re-usable orbital class booster.

Imagine buying the most overvalued company of all time helmed by a crazy man who does Nazi salutes. Payback period? Who cares! Orbital class booster yayyyy

Re: Danish Pension Blacklists SpaceX over 'Catastrophic Governance'

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post #6

Good. Would love to buy SpaceX stock at a 90% discount after the IPO and the next tech / AI correction.

Imagine not wanting to own a piece of the first company to make a re-usable orbital class booster.

> Imagine not wanting to own a piece of the first company to make a re-usable orbital class booster.

They didn't say they didn't want to own it, they said they wanted to own it at a : "90% discount after the IPO and the next tech / AI correction."

It is possible for a company to be both technically impressive and horrifically overvalued.

Re: Danish Pension Blacklists SpaceX over 'Catastrophic Governance'

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Add Anthropic and OpenAI to the list. Companies that are bleeding money. Personally, a company should be making money before adding it to the index.

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> Because from where I'm sitting it seems like you're just operating on hopes and feels.

I hate these flippant comments. Similarly, from where I'm sitting it seems you're struggling to disentangle revenue from profit.

Re: Danish Pension Blacklists SpaceX over 'Catastrophic Governance'

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Add Anthropic and OpenAI to the list. Companies that are bleeding money. Personally, a company should be making money before adding it to the index.

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Really depends on the valuation and P/E they plan to list at, and some estimate of their future revenue story. I love Codex and Claude Code but OpenCode/Kimi is wildly cheaper and 90% as good.

Re: Danish Pension Blacklists SpaceX over 'Catastrophic Governance'

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post #22

It's really concerning given how the indexes are changing rules to fast-track SpaceX being forced into index funds. S&P is also working on updates to S&P 500 to force it down everyone's throats quickly and algorithmically.

There is a market for an S&P 500 ETF without those companies. I'll immediately switch over

Let me know if you find one! I'm at a loss. (And even then, if I switch I have to pay $$$ taxes on capital gains)

Re: Danish Pension Blacklists SpaceX over 'Catastrophic Governance'

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Imagine not wanting to own a piece of the first company to make a re-usable orbital class booster.

Yeah, I also don't want to eat a tasty morsel if you roll it around in the dirt and serve it up covered in bugs and hair. And that's basically what SpaceX is right now after you account for xAI and twitter in the mix. So I'd love to own a piece of the SpaceX from a decade ago - but the current offering smells pretty bad. Combined with the fact that at this point, Musk clearly isn't opposed to running a business with…

The current SpaceX is in a far better financial and operational position than 10 years ago. By an order of magnitude. 90% of all payload to orbit right now is SpaceX alone. Starlink is profitable all on it's own. Right now. And they are just now picking up steam. American Airlines just signed onto Starlink just last week. This company is most likely gonna be the Coca-Cola of transportation between celestial bodies in solar system for the next 500 years but people on here are arguing over peanuts. On HN of all places.
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