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Social media bans for teenagers lack evidence and pose risks, scientists say

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Re: Social media bans for teenagers lack evidence and pose risks, scientists say

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Post by bflesch »

I take a very large grain of salt if a researcher is literally based in California and they produce "findings" in support of a California-based megacorp such as Facebook. And then the headline is "lacks evidence" and "pose risks".

No shit sherlock, it lacks evidence because Facebook gatekeeps all the scientifically interesting data and they also don't share their findings from internal studies and human trials where they psychologically manipulatated minors.

There is a reason social media apps spam you with notification popups if you have not been active for the last 23 hours. They employ every trick in the book to keep you hooked and monetize your attention.

It is clear scientific misconduct by people working for Facebook who do numerous human trials on minors in order to increase their metrics and monetization. The fact they have crossed this red line should stop the discussion for every credible researcher in that field, because human trials on minors without consent are not ethical and there is no excuse for such behavior.

Re: Social media bans for teenagers lack evidence and pose risks, scientists say

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Post by AmbroseBierce »

kgwxd wrote: post #2

Everyone should get off the engagement driven platforms, but the government shouldn't have a single thing to do with it.

Why? If asbestos is killing us we ban it, if hipotericllly some new form of asbestos is more harmful to young people than the rest we ban it too, why put the pressure of that responsibility in already stressed out population. Corporations know this very well, that's why they love when people have the opinion you just shared here.

Re: Social media bans for teenagers lack evidence and pose risks, scientists say

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Post by Nasrudith »

pacman1337 wrote: post #6

this is why science credibility is going down, what we call science is abused. This is like saying smoking has no evidence it causes harm.

You are providing an accidental illustration of why science is under attack - because people don't like having their beliefs undermined by pesky evidence.

Re: Social media bans for teenagers lack evidence and pose risks, scientists say

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Post by AmbroseBierce »

fyrabanks wrote: post #4
kgwxd wrote: post #2

Everyone should get off the engagement driven platforms, but the government shouldn't have a single thing to do with it.

good parenting, as always, remains the best solution

Yeah, tell that to those parents with 3 jobs and can barely make any time with their kids that they have to keep an eye on even more things, things that weren't even a thing in their childhood or their predecessors.

Re: Social media bans for teenagers lack evidence and pose risks, scientists say

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Post by SoftTalker »

fyrabanks wrote: post #4
kgwxd wrote: post #2

Everyone should get off the engagement driven platforms, but the government shouldn't have a single thing to do with it.

good parenting, as always, remains the best solution

Parenting has never been the sole answer. We need a general sense of social responsibility to not expose children to risks of harm that they are not developmentally ready to deal with. Companies producing the harmful things have never been able to resist this temptation (see how tobacco companies had strategies to advertise to children while denying they were doing it) so often times regulations are needed.

Re: Social media bans for teenagers lack evidence and pose risks, scientists say

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Post by AmbroseBierce »

Nasrudith wrote: post #9
psychoslave wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Formally the same as stating "Everyone should get off the addiction driven drug cartel, but the government shouldn't have a single thing to do with it."

To be fair for the literal example prohibition is what creates the drug cartels in the first place so it is more coherent than it sounds at first blush. Enforcement is effectively a subsidy to those who don’t get caught. For social media it is a whole different problem from it being entangled with protected speech. We don't want 'arrested for spreading misinformation defined as anything which contradicts the offical…

Except social media is the full opposite, you can't even mention Palestine on TikTok.

Re: Social media bans for teenagers lack evidence and pose risks, scientists say

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Post by AmbroseBierce »

Nasrudith wrote: post #13
pacman1337 wrote: post #6

this is why science credibility is going down, what we call science is abused. This is like saying smoking has no evidence it causes harm.

You are providing an accidental illustration of why science is under attack - because people don't like having their beliefs undermined by pesky evidence.

All evidence points out that social media has increased suicide rates in teens https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6791504/

Re: Social media bans for teenagers lack evidence and pose risks, scientists say

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Post by sieabahlpark »

Nasrudith wrote: post #13
pacman1337 wrote: post #6

this is why science credibility is going down, what we call science is abused. This is like saying smoking has no evidence it causes harm.

You are providing an accidental illustration of why science is under attack - because people don't like having their beliefs undermined by pesky evidence.

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