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FBI arrests CIA official with $40M in gold bars in his home

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Re: FBI arrests CIA official with $40M in gold bars in his home

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I mean, you see smart people all over the world talking to imaginary, supernatural, all powerfull beings asking for favors via prayers, like that would have any effect on their lives.

> like that would have any effect on their lives Prayer is more than begging favors from imaginary friends, even if that is the stereotype and there is some truth in it. Like meditation, journaling, and other contemplative practices, it is a mechanism for putting the day-to-day in proper context of some larger narrative. In a theological framework, then, it's about a narrative in which you aren't alone in your joys a…

I think the difference is if its personal and spiritual. Compared to "thoughts and prayer" for the dead children in the latest school shooting, and continue to do nothing else.

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Sure, but nonexistence is the default. Has to be the default; most possible things do not exist. In this case we have no evidence for, so we stay with the default.

You're making the "if a tree falls in the woods and nobody hears it" pontification? If so, I disagree with you.

I'd say there's a lot less evidence of god than a tree falling in the forest that nobody was there to see.

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Sure, selling the sorts of gold grandmothers and crazy uncles horde like rolls of Krugerrand coins, etc and even raw flake amateur prospectors mine out in Nevada is common and probably pretty easy to convert into cash amounts up to a few hundred thousand dollars. But these seem to have been minted gold bars, very likely stamped and serialized. Admittedly, I don't know that industry, but wouldn't trying to cash even a…

> If it's really possible to walk into a "We Buy Gold" place with 12 1kg gold bars and walk out with $1.7M in cash, no questions asked I'm just surprised the spreads are horrible in most places, outright swindles

> the spreads are horrible in most places, outright swindles

Most of those retail locations will pay 60% of spot. My sister did a lot of research looking for better deals within about 200 miles of us. We negotiated 90% of spot with the guy we sold to. The smelter (who only dealt with the wholesale trade like the guy we sold to) would pay 95% of spot.

Re: FBI arrests CIA official with $40M in gold bars in his home

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Confirmed. CIA hires people with sociopathic/psychopathic tendencies and tries to hire them so they're mild rather than criminal in nature.

Ha, this was explored in some credible article here on HN some months ago, wasn't it? It made complete sense. You can't be a nice balanced guy doing work which often dips in shady stuff, sometimes being responsible for killing innocents, or in extreme cases one's failed actions can send some region into death spiral of some small or larger conflict. No, you need (relatively) smart folks for whom emotions are just a t…

Moral flexibility if the term we use. Substance abuse is also, unfortunately, is a hallmark.

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There are some on hiking trails :)

Wow, it's really quite the panopticon you have there in the US. "Land of the free"...

and what sovereign nation's regulations are you subjected to?

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You could encase them in plastic to prevent damage and mask them for some run off the mill equipment. Nobody would suspect anything without prior knowledge.

> Nobody would suspect anything without prior knowledge. The weights being nearly twice as heavy for their expected size would be a bit of a giveaway to anyone who has ever been in a gym.

That's easily sorted by higher plastic to gold ratio.

Re: FBI arrests CIA official with $40M in gold bars in his home

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Wow, it's really quite the panopticon you have there in the US. "Land of the free"...

and what sovereign nation's regulations are you subjected to?

A despicable one. The pit of moral depravity, ethno-religious-supremacism and jingoism. 21st century genocide ground zero. You can probably guess.

(But it doesn't have trail cams.)

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