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Volkswagen blocks Home Assistant by requiring client assertion
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Re: Volkswagen blocks Home Assistant by requiring client assertion
#32I mean, it was founded by the Nazi party, they single handedly destroyed diesels through the world's largest scam, what ethics can you really expect from them? I find it extremely funny when people boycott Teslas for being "Nazi" but won't boycott actual Volkswagens that was founded by the real Nazi party and to date - followed some of the most unethical practices in automative history :)
Just because the Nsdap party created something that doesn't mean you can automatically treat it is bad. That is prejudice. Something bad happening decades and decades after the party's dissolution is not going to be directly related. It is a reach to think unsupported third party apps breaking is related.
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#33I mean, it was founded by the Nazi party, they single handedly destroyed diesels through the world's largest scam, what ethics can you really expect from them? I find it extremely funny when people boycott Teslas for being "Nazi" but won't boycott actual Volkswagens that was founded by the real Nazi party and to date - followed some of the most unethical practices in automative history :)
“Nazis”: see Godwins law
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#34Seems doubtful that this security will be very strong. It won't be hard to spoof an official client.
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> if you don't like that car/company, don't buy their product. buy competitors. that will show them much better. (or petition to government to put pressure on them). That maybe fine, but if something is allowed at the time I've bought the car, and then the manufacturer changes their policy such that the usage that I did is no longer allowed? BTW, to me this is bullshit, first cars shouldn't be connected to the intern…
> something is allowed at the time I've bought the car,
good point. yet, I bet in their T&C it was covered. it was just not enforced. and usually they have claim like "if we fail to enforce any part of agreement does not constitue waiver.". so most likely it was expected all along, they were not technically adept to actualyl enforce this. now they can.
but, if your claim stands, I bet you can win case against them.
> cars shouldn't be connected to the internet
yep, same with you on this one.
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
pretty much. correct me if I am wrong, but these T&C treated like "local" laws (in respect to interaction of client and business within their interaction) within most jurisdictions by courts. so even if T&C does not make sense, usually courts are in favour of enforcing them. unless some severe contradiction with constitution or alike, or serious harm to people or something, they would throw away T&C in cases. but AFA…
No: T&C cannot override the law, that is a national/EU law is still superior to anything that is written in the T&C. If there is a contrast between T&C and the law of course that T&C are just scratch paper.
Nobody claimed that this wasn’t the case.
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#37/me scratches VAG cars from a possible new EV purchase. I hate Elon as much as the next guy, but Tesla is still playing the API game way better than the rest of the pack (even with the "not so new" Tesla Fleet API change)
Volvo is also doing pretty good with offering an official API
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#38I recently saw a group of automakers together during an event. The contrast between Chinese and Germans was bizare. The group of german automakers were older men in black suits all wearing badge with titles like Senior Executive Sales blablabla. Whereas the Chinese were all young people wearing causual clothing and much more engineering minded. No wonder why european auto makers are doing so badly. They forgot to ple…
This could equally illustrate the difference between long established multi national companies with an overbearing corporate culture vs young upstart companies with a dynamic startup culture.
Yeah, this is just the difference between the "cash cow" and "question mark" companies on the BCG growth-share matrix. The Chinese companies will sooner or later turn into stodgy cash cows themselves.
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#39I mean, it was founded by the Nazi party, they single handedly destroyed diesels through the world's largest scam, what ethics can you really expect from them? I find it extremely funny when people boycott Teslas for being "Nazi" but won't boycott actual Volkswagens that was founded by the real Nazi party and to date - followed some of the most unethical practices in automative history :)
Just because the Nsdap party created something that doesn't mean you can automatically treat it is bad. That is prejudice. Something bad happening decades and decades after the party's dissolution is not going to be directly related. It is a reach to think unsupported third party apps breaking is related.
While I agree with you in principle, I don't think this is followed equally. Tesla's are still being vandalized to date, though. Selective outrage is a dangerous thing.
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#40I mean, it was founded by the Nazi party, they single handedly destroyed diesels through the world's largest scam, what ethics can you really expect from them? I find it extremely funny when people boycott Teslas for being "Nazi" but won't boycott actual Volkswagens that was founded by the real Nazi party and to date - followed some of the most unethical practices in automative history :)
This is not an intelligent comment. the Nazi parry and modern-day Volkswagen have nothing in common, whereas Tesla is currently^ actively^ run by someone morally reprehensible to many.
If you had any actual understanding—:as opposed to just hearing this little factoid in passing and have been waiting for every opportunity to whip it out— you’d know that already. It’s funny as a quip, but don’t for a a second act like it’s a legitimate point, which is exactly what you’re doing.