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Italians and Dutch share the same gestural instinct for teaching

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Re: Italians and Dutch share the same gestural instinct for teaching

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It seems reasonable to expect that some behaviors transcend culture and go back to instinct (tho expectations often conflict with reality) which probably is not even human specific.

IIRC Konrad Lorenz pointed out in Solomon's Ring that rooks will exhibit "infantile behavior" when grooming in a mated couple which, well, humans do it when they cuddle too.

As an aside: my favorite italian gesture is "tasty" (put index on cheek and spin back and forth) which is only used by and for children. I'm on a lifelong mission to spread it everywhere.

Re: Italians and Dutch share the same gestural instinct for teaching

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It seems reasonable to expect that some behaviors transcend culture and go back to instinct (tho expectations often conflict with reality) which probably is not even human specific. IIRC Konrad Lorenz pointed out in Solomon's Ring that rooks will exhibit "infantile behavior" when grooming in a mated couple which, well, humans do it when they cuddle too. As an aside: my favorite italian gesture is "tasty" (put index o…

The Dutch version of this is to wave at the cheek.

Re: Italians and Dutch share the same gestural instinct for teaching

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post #3

It seems reasonable to expect that some behaviors transcend culture and go back to instinct (tho expectations often conflict with reality) which probably is not even human specific. IIRC Konrad Lorenz pointed out in Solomon's Ring that rooks will exhibit "infantile behavior" when grooming in a mated couple which, well, humans do it when they cuddle too. As an aside: my favorite italian gesture is "tasty" (put index o…

> that some behaviors transcend culture and go back to instinct

My first thought was "is it only Italians and Dutch, or are the two the only groups they could cover with their given funding?".

Re: Italians and Dutch share the same gestural instinct for teaching

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often when I discuss very abstract complicated subjects I use hand gestures to "place" the interlocking concepts under discussion at different positions in front of me while talking, and as I talk I will then refer to these "virtual objects" via gestures as a way of referring back to the previous point where they were brought in and "positioned" in the discussion.

Re: Italians and Dutch share the same gestural instinct for teaching

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post #3

It seems reasonable to expect that some behaviors transcend culture and go back to instinct (tho expectations often conflict with reality) which probably is not even human specific. IIRC Konrad Lorenz pointed out in Solomon's Ring that rooks will exhibit "infantile behavior" when grooming in a mated couple which, well, humans do it when they cuddle too. As an aside: my favorite italian gesture is "tasty" (put index o…

> that some behaviors transcend culture and go back to instinct My first thought was "is it only Italians and Dutch, or are the two the only groups they could cover with their given funding?".

> Here we ask whether, in a task where gestures are particularly useful—namely, spontaneous demonstration in which no real object is present—speakers of a high-gesture (Italian) and a low-gesture (Dutch) culture show similarities or differences in how they teach to adults versus children.

Re: Italians and Dutch share the same gestural instinct for teaching

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post #3

It seems reasonable to expect that some behaviors transcend culture and go back to instinct (tho expectations often conflict with reality) which probably is not even human specific. IIRC Konrad Lorenz pointed out in Solomon's Ring that rooks will exhibit "infantile behavior" when grooming in a mated couple which, well, humans do it when they cuddle too. As an aside: my favorite italian gesture is "tasty" (put index o…

The Dutch version of this is to wave at the cheek.

jazz hand(s) !
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