Have we confirmed nobody was hurt? EDIT: Everyone is fine [1]. Go ahead and make jokes. [1] https://x.com/blueorigin/status/2060172114796204539?s=20
Blue Origin's New Glenn blows up during static fire test
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Re: Blue Origin's New Glenn blows up during static fire test
#152Does anyone else find it surprising that rockets are a century old[1] and yet still seem to fail spectacularly with amazing regularity, often due to some small flaw? Is it just that they're still relatively niche machines and thus haven't benefited from mass manufacturing improvements? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Goddard_and_Rocket.jpg
Given that it’s just barely possible, you can’t just make things twice as strong as you think you’d need to, just in case something unexpected happens. Anyhow when something moderately unexpected happens, that means you may get a giant fireball like we saw today.
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#153Re: Blue Origin's New Glenn blows up during static fire test
#154Earlier quoted context omitted.
I was speaking mainly off my reading of the discussions on the internet in recent months, but I'm assuming the impression stems from this OIG report https://oig.nasa.gov/news/artemis-lander-program-faces-sched... It seems to point to rising costs on SpaceX's end, and in my reading, is very critical of them compared to BO. >The neat thing about Artemis is it’s pushing so many boundaries that it’s reasonable to debate…
That’s a fair criticism. I’m just never remembering anyone thinking BO was the safer option.
Re: Blue Origin's New Glenn blows up during static fire test
#155Does anyone else find it surprising that rockets are a century old[1] and yet still seem to fail spectacularly with amazing regularity, often due to some small flaw? Is it just that they're still relatively niche machines and thus haven't benefited from mass manufacturing improvements? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Goddard_and_Rocket.jpg
Until very recently they were basically all custom with extreme tolerance requirements and absolute specifications. Nobody could have an "off day" on a single bolt, hose, nut, screw, wiring harness, etc.
Re: Blue Origin's New Glenn blows up during static fire test
#156Does anyone else find it surprising that rockets are a century old[1] and yet still seem to fail spectacularly with amazing regularity, often due to some small flaw? Is it just that they're still relatively niche machines and thus haven't benefited from mass manufacturing improvements? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Goddard_and_Rocket.jpg
Re: Blue Origin's New Glenn blows up during static fire test
#157There's got to be better way than burning a shittonne of fuel. Anyone else know?
We would be doing it
Re: Blue Origin's New Glenn blows up during static fire test
#158Video: https://xcancel.com/nasaspaceflight/status/20601649284728548... Another angle: https://xcancel.com/SawyerMerritt/status/2060174287563116696...
Re: Blue Origin's New Glenn blows up during static fire test
#159Does anyone else find it surprising that rockets are a century old[1] and yet still seem to fail spectacularly with amazing regularity, often due to some small flaw? Is it just that they're still relatively niche machines and thus haven't benefited from mass manufacturing improvements? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Goddard_and_Rocket.jpg
https://web.archive.org/web/20120503175355/https://www.nasa.... > The percent propellant has huge implications on the ease of fabrication and robustness in achieving the engineering design (and cost). If a vehicle is less than 10% propellant, it is typically made from billets of steel. Changes to its structure are readily done without engineering analysis; you simple weld on another hunk of steel to reinforce the fra…
Thanks for the link.
Re: Blue Origin's New Glenn blows up during static fire test
#160Earlier quoted context omitted.
Simplest explanation comes from Tory Bruno: they design with a factor of safety just above 1. 1.1 to 1.25. This is one of the reasons they wait for good weather to launch… they are trying to maximize payload. Also until recently, it’s been sort of a vicious cycle: rocket is very exquisite and expensive, so spacecraft needs to last longer and thus gets more exquisite and expensive, etc. Have you seen how many issues r…
One might make the same observations about software “bugginess” and complexity. The pace of improvement is such that everyone is riding the bleeding edge and, as such, the carpet inevitably gets a few spots of blood on it.
Which is often fine, but sometimes isn't.