The mysterious Hy3 LLM is topping OpenRouter Model Rankings by a large margin
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Re: The mysterious Hy3 LLM is topping OpenRouter Model Rankings by a large margin
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#3So basically, Hy3 is the cheapest decent model on OpenRouter, unless you use DeepSeek as the provider for DeepSeek V4 Flash, in which case DeepSeek's insane caching wins out. (And Hy3 is close-ish on the benchmarks.)
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#4> Two new models are now beating LLM darling Claude in terms of token usage and by more than 50%?
Time for a reminder that OpenRouter leaderboards only show tokens sent through OpenRouter, which most Anthropic API users don’t use.
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#5> it makes sense that a cheaper model would prevail, but only if it offered similar quality
You're trying to think logically, which has no place in an AI discussion. :) People just jump to whatever the latest model is. Plenty of people also prefer price to "quality" (which is very subjective). It's new, it's cheap, so people use it. It's likely people will stop using it when something else is cheaper and/or newer.
Re: The mysterious Hy3 LLM is topping OpenRouter Model Rankings by a large margin
#6So basically, Hy3 is the cheapest decent model on OpenRouter, unless you use DeepSeek as the provider for DeepSeek V4 Flash, in which case DeepSeek's insane caching wins out. (And Hy3 is close-ish on the benchmarks.)
You need to use DeepSeek API directly to gain the extra caching benefits. The DeepSeek provider on OpenRouter is only the 5th-cheapest for V4 Flash, so you have to specify DeepSeek provider when calling OpenRouter. But DeepSeek's API discounts on its models only applies if you call DeepSeek directly. So anyone using OpenRouter to call DeepSeek models is actually losing quite a bit of money.
Re: The mysterious Hy3 LLM is topping OpenRouter Model Rankings by a large margin
#7So basically, Hy3 is the cheapest decent model on OpenRouter, unless you use DeepSeek as the provider for DeepSeek V4 Flash, in which case DeepSeek's insane caching wins out. (And Hy3 is close-ish on the benchmarks.)
You need to use DeepSeek API directly to gain the extra caching benefits. The DeepSeek provider on OpenRouter is only the 5th-cheapest for V4 Flash, so you have to specify DeepSeek provider when calling OpenRouter. But DeepSeek's API discounts on its models only applies if you call DeepSeek directly. So anyone using OpenRouter to call DeepSeek models is actually losing quite a bit of money.
ZDR is also on by default and deepseek is not ZDR.
Re: The mysterious Hy3 LLM is topping OpenRouter Model Rankings by a large margin
#8Since there’s only one inference provider it could be a recycling/ad experiment. The similar usage between trial and paid periods would be explained by this as well.
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#10First model I've tried that gave me back HTML with a "Change Pelican Color" button: https://static.simonwillison.net/static/2026/hy3-preview-pel...
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