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Nitpicking the shell history scene in 'Tron: Legacy'

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Re: Nitpicking the shell history scene in 'Tron: Legacy'

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> Killing some processes to free up memory This section is disregarding a key lore element, the inhabitants of the grid are programs . Killing a process in this context more likely has an interpretation of an attempt to stop an individual such as the villain Clu. I would say an alternative explanation is is more story based, with Kevin Flynn trying to stop Clu from the outside world but being unable to and instead ta…

That's a good idea, but remember that, up until CLU's outright betrayal, Kevin had no reason to be concerned, and after it, he had no way back into meat space to run those commands.

Also -- unrelated, but a nitpick of the article -- Kevin was using the laser to come and go from the grid for a while before he got stuck there. The laser would have been pretty well-tested by the time he made/edited the last will and testament, so the article's explanation that it was his first use of the tech doesn't make sense. (He could have just spontaneously decided to update it though, which isn't too far fetched)

Re: Nitpicking the shell history scene in 'Tron: Legacy'

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post #13
post #2

Wonderful! At the bottom he notes: "I’m sitting in the UK as I write this. Under UK law, I believe this should constitute fair dealing: the purpose is quotation for criticism and review, and this single screen capture is in no way an alternative to paying to see the original film. The film comes from the USA, and under USA law I think it similarly constitutes fair use: it’s for non-profit educational purposes, the am…

You really need to put this on an RSS feed! I wish there was a way you could get paid for views for this stuff. I will be sending people this link when they ask "why are you so mad about that terminal scene in that movie?!?!"

The parent commentator is the former CTO of Cloudflare, I don't think he's worried about monetizing his passion project :)

Re: Nitpicking the shell history scene in 'Tron: Legacy'

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Simon writes:

> To [switch users], /bin/login would need to be setuid, and it certainly isn’t on Linux... _Perhaps_ Solaris (or SolarOS) is different?

The login command is indeed setuid root on SunOS 4, to which the movie pays homage, as its documented behavior is "to [permanently] change from one userID to another". The su command explicitly means "temporarily switch to a new user ID".

Here are copies of the SunOS 4 manual pages, if you're curious:

http://www.typewritten.org/Manual/Sun/SunOS/4.0.2/man1/login...

http://www.typewritten.org/Manual/Sun/SunOS/4.0.2/man1/su.ht...

And here's a link to the relevant bits of the SunOS 4.1.3 source code:

https://github.com/Arquivotheca/SunOS-4.1.3/blob/2e8a93c3946...

Re: Nitpicking the shell history scene in 'Tron: Legacy'

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post #6

As an aside the Daft Punk soundtrack that accompanies this film is an absolute masterpiece. I think it's their best work. It's such a shame the film doesn't live up to it's own soundtrack.

I think of the film as a Daft Punk music video, and from that perspective it's great.

Re: Nitpicking the shell history scene in 'Tron: Legacy'

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post #2

Wonderful! At the bottom he notes: "I’m sitting in the UK as I write this. Under UK law, I believe this should constitute fair dealing: the purpose is quotation for criticism and review, and this single screen capture is in no way an alternative to paying to see the original film. The film comes from the USA, and under USA law I think it similarly constitutes fair use: it’s for non-profit educational purposes, the am…

Sure it sucks that you got takedown notices. Ideally it would have been revenue share. Your critique is mostly interesting because it's using famous IP. Critique something no one cares about to see how much your additions are adding vs the pull of the original content itself.

Re: Nitpicking the shell history scene in 'Tron: Legacy'

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post #6

As an aside the Daft Punk soundtrack that accompanies this film is an absolute masterpiece. I think it's their best work. It's such a shame the film doesn't live up to it's own soundtrack.

Tron 1 for the plot, Tron 2 for daft punk, Tron 3... we don't talk about.

Re: Nitpicking the shell history scene in 'Tron: Legacy'

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I was luck to know Josh Nimoy who is responsible for a lot of this in the movie, who has since sadly passed away. Josh took great pride in the fact that he was able to put Emacs and a bunch of Unix commands in a major Hollywood blockbuster.ed

I'm unsure why the other comment is dead. You've seemingly deadnamed her and used the wrong pronouns.

She apparently passed away after becoming homeless due to struggling to find work because she was trans.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25660152

Re: Nitpicking the shell history scene in 'Tron: Legacy'

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post #29
post #6

As an aside the Daft Punk soundtrack that accompanies this film is an absolute masterpiece. I think it's their best work. It's such a shame the film doesn't live up to it's own soundtrack.

People were calling the film "a two-hour Daft Punk video" at one point. Which would be pretty cool, come to think of it. I do think they were a pretty good choice to follow on from the original movie's electronic score by Wendy Carlos.

Related, Interstella 5555 is actually Daft Punk's Discovery album as a one-hour animated movie.
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