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Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by verisimi »

ramonga wrote: post #717
verisimi wrote: post #407

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> in fact it was 100% AI And you know that how? And, how do you know news itself is not 100% ai? News corps may simply fail to disclose that it was ai, be taken in, remove watermarks, etc. The fact is no one can say what one sees on a screen is a true representation of reality. People are acting on a consensus feeling .

> the disclosures were all the way at the bottom of the video description

Anyone can write anything, it doesn't make it true.

Eg, I can say: "ai wrote this comment".

Or I can say: "ai did not write this comment".

Looking at the comments alone does not tell you whether they were or were not written by ai. Same for videos.

What is going on is that you are trusting the disclosure is significant and real. So, when you see the disclosure you are concluding something on the basis of TRUST. Same for the video itself.

Seeing something on a screen does not make it a true representation of reality. You do not know reality; you only know that you saw a video. This applies to disclosure, video, comments - anything on a screen.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by yousif_123123 »

injidup wrote: post #474

Last weekend a group of friends and I sat by the lake. One had a guitar, and we were all singing off-key to old classics and dancing to salsa and reggaeton. We were doing it together, and it was great. Much more fun than listening alone or caring about the authenticity of the music or not. It was the participation, not the product, that was the key. Something went wrong with music and culture in recent times. Partici…

You know its not that much work to learn a couple of open chords on the guitar and be able to play some songs and participate. And its so so rewarding to play a song, even one you aren't really excited about, and to sing and accompany yourself even if its a song that's like 2-3 chords (like "You Can't Always Get What You Want" by the Rolling Stones). Just because its YOU making the music and the sounds, its immediately your interpretation and has your soul in it. It becomes so meaningful to you to people around you.

You don't have to say I wont be a rockstar, therefore let me use some AI to make a song, and in doing so give up on the joys of touching and making sounds with an instrument, a very old human thing we've been doing all over the world, having someone show you a song, or look up a youtube video and learning it from some random stranger.

Even better, being in love with a song and finally being able to play it yourself!

Maybe AI could've sufficed for Paul McCartney's interest in music, and provided a creative outlet. But we wouldn't have had something as great and as human as the legacy of the Beatles.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by macintux »

dmos62 wrote: post #709
cynicalpeace wrote: post #691

Earlier quoted context omitted.

kids simply shouldn't be looking at a screen, AI-generated or not. Screen time for kids (and adults for that matter!) should be way way scaled back. That falls on the parents. Bad parents give their kids phones and tablets and that's a hill I will die on.

Many parents find parenthood difficult and are happy that something distracts their kid. Further, kids that tend to get more addicted to stuff like this tend to live in stressful circumstances. It's easy to say be a better parent, or produce a better environment for your kid, but it's not as easy to help people with that. If we can make social media healthier for everyone, that's a big deal.

Many parents grew up with TVs as their screens. It's a reasonable extrapolation to think that their kids will be fine with devices as their screens.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by MichaelZuo »

wan23 wrote: post #697
dmos62 wrote: post #652

Children and seniors are victimized by AI content on a huge scale. Regular adults like most of us here don't ever get such videos in their feeds. I saw kids spend many hours a day watching automatically generated videos. Not always AI-generated, sometimes it's AI-assisted and procedurally generated. It is quite unbelievable how vulnerable weaker minds, for the lack of a better term, are to AI content. I saw a group o…

My elderly uncle is completely addicted to these. We can barely complete a conversation without him getting bored and pulling out his phone to watch these nonsense videos. I don't even understand what the point is. The ones he watches are these clearly procedurally generated stories. It'd be one thing if the content was actually interesting, but ugh.

There are so many of these stories… it makes me wonder if humans in general have “general intelligence” either.

Or whether it’s only a small subset who do.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by wtetzner »

floxy wrote: post #288
wtetzner wrote: post #268

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> Wouldn't the human creators be the biggest advocates of labeling, so that their content can be more easily found among the AI dross? Only if it actually works

Generally things aren't successful unless they work

The entire discussion was centered around whether or not using AI to detect AI content would work, or if it would create false positives that harm human content creators.

It could work "well enough" for YouTube to consider it a success while still harming a fairly large number of content creators.

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Post by jb1991 »

wan23 wrote: post #697
dmos62 wrote: post #652

Children and seniors are victimized by AI content on a huge scale. Regular adults like most of us here don't ever get such videos in their feeds. I saw kids spend many hours a day watching automatically generated videos. Not always AI-generated, sometimes it's AI-assisted and procedurally generated. It is quite unbelievable how vulnerable weaker minds, for the lack of a better term, are to AI content. I saw a group o…

My elderly uncle is completely addicted to these. We can barely complete a conversation without him getting bored and pulling out his phone to watch these nonsense videos. I don't even understand what the point is. The ones he watches are these clearly procedurally generated stories. It'd be one thing if the content was actually interesting, but ugh.

Now I am super curious, I really need to see an example of one of these videos!

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by saltyoldman »

dmos62 wrote: post #652

Children and seniors are victimized by AI content on a huge scale. Regular adults like most of us here don't ever get such videos in their feeds. I saw kids spend many hours a day watching automatically generated videos. Not always AI-generated, sometimes it's AI-assisted and procedurally generated. It is quite unbelievable how vulnerable weaker minds, for the lack of a better term, are to AI content. I saw a group o…

Gen Beta is soooo cooked.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by mythrwy »

solumunus wrote: post #719
mythrwy wrote: post #664

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My girlfriend mindlessly watches those sometimes. I think they are from China maybe. I heard one in the background last night and it went something like this: "A girl becomes pregnant in college and it turns out to be triplets. But she doesn't know who the father is. She raises the children and they grow up very successful. One becomes a surgeon. The children's father is actually a famous and one day he is giving a s…

Is she otherwise intelligent reasonably? I just can’t wrap my head around anyone consuming content like this.

She is reasonably intelligent. Not necessarily intellectually inclined but not stupid by any means.

And I'm with you, I can't wrap my head around it either.

To be fair I didn't really get her choice of movies before AI (superhero flicks, hallmark type movies, 200 watches of "Twilight" etc). I think to her it's just sort of "turn off your brain comfortable background noise" from inquiries.

I'm different and when I watch things I pay attention and think about it and notice plot holes etc etc. I watch to be entertained or informed and if it doesn't do either of those I tune out. So I can't sit through most movies even before AI. But some people I think just "vibe watch" for lack of a better term.

I also have never understood people who come home and watch "whatever is on TV" or watch news all day or that kind of thing either so I'm not sure the problem is AI in this case. It just produces more volume of junk than the junky junk that existed previously. Some of the AI stuff is egregiously horrible though.

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