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The Problem with the Ferrari Luce EV Offers a Lesson for Every Leader

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Re: The Problem with the Ferrari Luce EV Offers a Lesson for Every Leader

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The inside looks so freaking cool: https://www.ferrari.com/en-EN/auto/ferrari-luce-design Look at those tactile buttons and knobs. For cruise control and wipers. And the flip switches for Infotainment / climate. The "LUNCH" mode button that you have to pull and then shows a glowing ring. Feels 90s science fiction. I wonder if I can 3D print a replica, not sure for what yet, but I want it. It's literally inspiring for…

Are we looking at the same interior? It is ugly as sin. Looks like a mockup render that is going to need ten more iterations to look good.

You can certainly see the modern Apple influence: 4 different instrument panels, 7 different corner radii.

The control panel is the odd one out at the moment, but perhaps in the next version they'll "upgrade" it to a lop-sided rhomircle instead. Maybe even find a way to make the seatbelt foul the accelerator pedal when in use, in homage to the Magic Mouse.

Re: The Problem with the Ferrari Luce EV Offers a Lesson for Every Leader

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the gist of the article is that people don't like change. and the lesson is: don't change your style, because your fans will hate you. even star trek felt that lesson. the backslash they are getting in recent years is disturbing.

but ferrari is arrogant too: "This is a brand that permanently banned Paris Hilton for painting her Ferrari pink, Kim Kardashian for modifying her 458, and Justin Bieber for wrapping his in neon blue."

WAT? how dare someone tell me what i do with my car.

but back to the argument: people don't like change. but change is inevitable. sure, some change is objectively bad, but we are talking about style here. get over it. if you don't like it, don't buy it.

the article argues that the problem is not the switch to electric, but how the car makes you feel. i'd argue that electric feeling different is unavoidable.

the article fails to show an example that does this better. the tesla example is unfair because tesla didn't have an existing brand image to follow. they could start from scratch.

if the luce looks like a car designed by apple, that's obviously no surprise. it will certainly appeal to apple fans.

so to me the lesson is this: don't change your brand, or it will hurt, if you want to innovate, create a new brand. but the consequence is also that if brands can not change they will eventually have to die and be replaced. that is not new, we have known this for some time now.

but i want to ask: is it possible to break out of that cycle? only if we teach people to be more open to change. and if we teach them to stop complaining about things that don't concern them. go complain about the cybertruck, that thing is objectively ugly. or about SUVs, they have no place in the city. but complaining that the luce does not fit the ferrari brand should be left to those that actually buy from ferrari.

Re: The Problem with the Ferrari Luce EV Offers a Lesson for Every Leader

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You are free to do whatever, but companies are also free to choose who they conduct business with. In the case of Ferrari, their products are essentially also rolling advertisements, so modifying them goes against what they are trying to sell.

That line is not that clear. Putting up a sign in your shop selling only to white people or not selling to Jews will get you in trouble in quite a few jurisdictions. On the other end of the spectrum you have things like a bouncer rejecting people at the door because they do not fit in. Also the difference between not allowing to paint your Ferrari blue and not allowing or making it hard to have your John Deere tracto…

I am 100% certain, that if you go to a Ferrari dealer and buy one of their cars, they will clearly inform you of their rules.

Of course you can have a friend to buy it for you, but again, it's Ferraris choice who they want to conduct business with as long as they follow the laws to the letter. Their car is their brand and they want to protect it.

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The tree huggers ruin everything they touch.

Bezos is right, things are either contracting or expanding...the saving and conserving energy to extend the runaway will only lead those who do to perverted and depressed outcomes.

Such as this monstruosity

Re: The Problem with the Ferrari Luce EV Offers a Lesson for Every Leader

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If you want to discuss it, maybe explain it? I like tactile knobs and switches. I can see my self enjoying using them, similar to a fidget toy. Or an earbuds case that you can close with a satisfying SNAP. Look at the infotainment, you have the handle bar thing that you can feel and thus rest your hand vertically. But instead of just a row of flip switches, in the middle you have the depressed button and a wheel. All…

What does something looking ugly have to do with it having buttons? The interior looks like the car version of those "Xbox 720", "Gameboy Omega" meme renders from the late 2000s. It's just plain ugly. Compare that to some of the beautiful devices Braun and Sony created in the past. Buttons don't prevent something from looking beautifully crafted. But ugly design does. Thinking of it, you know who could design a beaut…

Heck yes, Teenage Engineering does indeed have some beautiful design. Same as Braun.

I looked up "Xbox 720" and can't see the resemblens to the Luces inside.

The type of buttons, how you use them, how they feel, is for me part of the design. And I like what I see :)

Re: The Problem with the Ferrari Luce EV Offers a Lesson for Every Leader

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The inside looks so freaking cool: https://www.ferrari.com/en-EN/auto/ferrari-luce-design Look at those tactile buttons and knobs. For cruise control and wipers. And the flip switches for Infotainment / climate. The "LUNCH" mode button that you have to pull and then shows a glowing ring. Feels 90s science fiction. I wonder if I can 3D print a replica, not sure for what yet, but I want it. It's literally inspiring for…

> The outside though :(

The exterior of basically all cars from Hyundai up to (now) Ferarri is currently stuck at some kind of aerodynamic / fuel efficiency local maximum that dictates that they all look like the same boring bar of soap. Nobody seems willing to budge on this and climb down the hill even a bit.

As problematic (quality-wise) as the Cybertruck is, at least they went full-send on the design. It might look ugly but at least they tried to not make it look like every other truck on the market.

Re: The Problem with the Ferrari Luce EV Offers a Lesson for Every Leader

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There's a reason why the top Swiss brands don't manufacture quartz watches. From some point on, people buy stories, experiences, luxury. Gadgets don't provide the same experience.

Except for Breitling, Omega, Tag Heuer, ...
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