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EU fines Temu €200M for allowing sale of illegal products

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Re: EU fines Temu €200M for allowing sale of illegal products

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Post by eqvinox »

dylan604 wrote: post #16
mdrzn wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

you won't be able to sell in the EU market anymore

Doesn’t Temu direct ship to the customer? What if they ship in plain unmarked packaging and keep changing the address of the sender? Is the EU customs peeps just going to start inspecting every single package from China looking for items from Temu? That sounds like a logistical nightmare. This sounds like old school thinking where you can stop whole containers full of stuff from a single supplier.

At some point it's a diplomatic incident and will affect EU-Chinese relationships. Even the Chinese government doesn't want to fuck it up for all Chinese companies just because one of them feels like the rules don't apply to them. It's not like the only goods flowing from China to the EU are cheap trash.

Re: EU fines Temu €200M for allowing sale of illegal products

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Post by everfrustrated »

kirtakat wrote: post #45
everfrustrated wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the best usb chargers for the money is the 40W IKEA charger. I trust their quality control.

I wasn't aware that Ikea sold a charger, so I googled it - this is the very first result: https://www.ikea.com/us/en/customer-service/product-support/...

The fact they're even doing a recall tells you they care.

When people buy from Alibaba and resell it on Amazon, they're not bothering to issue recalls.

Re: EU fines Temu €200M for allowing sale of illegal products

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Post by spwa4 »

crote wrote: post #41
spwa4 wrote: post #20

So they let sellers from china, and reseller platforms, get away with violating safety laws for 3 years (just Temu), have 50 BILLION euro in revenue (about 3-4 billion in profit for the platform itself) from those products and then charge them 200 Million for the crime? Can European companies demand equal treatment? Wait, no, I know the answer to that.

Yes, because it is the start of enforcement. That's how it works, not just a one-and-done slap on the wrist. If they don't fix it, it'll eventually continue to the "20% of worldwide revenue" kind of fine everyone on HN was so afraid of when the GDPR was introduced. But that's not what it starts with.

So you're saying if I start a company in the EU that violates safety standards, copyright, trademarks, ... I will be allowed to profit of that for 3 years (let's pretend it's just 3 years that Chinese producers have been doing that) before facing any consequences and at that point STILL only be required to clean up my act (ie. not face any consequences for violations already done)?

I find this incredibly, incredibly hard to believe.

Re: EU fines Temu €200M for allowing sale of illegal products

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Post by rendaw »

HPsquared wrote: post #39
TheJoeMan wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd be curious to see a breakdown between the "toxic chemicals" and "suffocation hazards" categories, as my intuition says it's mostly the latter and often bunk. The other day I was watching the TV above the Walmart customer service desk that displays product recalls, and multiple recalled products were a motorized bassinet, but the wireless remote control has a battery compartment that could be opened and then the b…

Batteries are more than a choking hazard; they can cause severe internal chemical burns, gut perforation and so on initiated by electrolysis.

I think the idea is that the baby would be in the bassinet, the parent would have the remote, not the other way around.

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Post by SiempreViernes »

spwa4 wrote: post #53
crote wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, because it is the start of enforcement. That's how it works, not just a one-and-done slap on the wrist. If they don't fix it, it'll eventually continue to the "20% of worldwide revenue" kind of fine everyone on HN was so afraid of when the GDPR was introduced. But that's not what it starts with.

So you're saying if I start a company in the EU that violates safety standards, copyright, trademarks, ... I will be allowed to profit of that for 3 years (let's pretend it's just 3 years that Chinese producers have been doing that) before facing any consequences and at that point STILL only be required to clean up my act (ie. not face any consequences for violations already done)? I find this incredibly, incredibly…

The EU does in fact not have an infinite amount of safety inspectors, however hard this is to believe for you.

Re: EU fines Temu €200M for allowing sale of illegal products

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Post by MobiusHorizons »

manoDev wrote: post #56

Isn't there some kind of law to disallow imports without a CE / RoHS / etc label? Why allow it to enter the EU, and then fine the seller afterwards?

Are you suggesting opening every package to check for a CE? I think fining after the fact is how those laws are enforced.
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