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Why is Vivado 2026.1 dropping Linux support for free tier?

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Re: Why is Vivado 2026.1 dropping Linux support for free tier?

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Yeah this is such an own goal. You want students using your code to get them to use it in job. They have learnt nothing from cuda

They still have a system for sponsoring students (through professors). They're not entirely crazy. It does make me wonder how much money they must be losing on these chips that they've turned this desperate for licensing costs.

They have learnt... very slightly more than nothing from CUDA.

Re: Why is Vivado 2026.1 dropping Linux support for free tier?

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> Whether it's directed at you or not, as an employee it's still stressful AF and these people are like getting paid kinda shit wages to put up with people all day long. Then don't take the job.

Not everyone has the luxury you do. Can you imagine if everyone who had to put up with this bullshit for shit wages, did what you said. Good luck with services.

The people that take those jobs usually don't find them extremely stressful.

When you're including all the jobs with bad pay, the average person has a reasonable variety of options that are all flawed in different ways.

Re: Why is Vivado 2026.1 dropping Linux support for free tier?

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> Are you seriously suggesting hobbyists should tapeout an ASIC instead of use an FPGA? No. I said the low-end of FPGA sales is getting eaten by microcontrollers and the high-end of FPGAs sales is probably about to get eaten by custom ASICs. Although the cost of making an ASIC is high, in the larger nodes it's not that high, and getting ever cheaper at FPGA performance levels and logic densities. FPGAs are terribly i…

Are you sure you actually know what you're talking about? FPGA unit costs keep doing down and they usually tend to use a recent manufacturing process. Meanwhile the fixed NRE costs of ASICs keep going up the more advanced the manufacturing process is. An FPGA consists of non programmable logic components such as DSPs, block RAM, NoCs, SERDES/configurable IO, that keep scaling with the manufacturing process. If you tr…

I'm not sure it's quite as clean cut as you say. FPGA's have a 10x penalty in area due to the extra routing wires they need.

Also, it seems like the node that Xilinx has been using lately (28 nm) isn't as cutting edge as it used to be.

Re: Why is Vivado 2026.1 dropping Linux support for free tier?

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The official replies are addressing questions that nobody has asked. The main issue is why Linux support is being removed from the Basic tier while Windows is still allowed. To grow the ecosystem, AMD needs more people working on their hardware. Restricting Linux will only alienates students, hobbyists, and devs who want to adopt AMD tech. - From long term AMD user

Those students and hobbyists often end up in jobs where they are involved in multi million dollar purchasing decisions. AMD’s MBA types extinguish that early mindshare at their own peril.

MBAs are mercenaries, that's part of their formation. They fully expect to be working somewhere else when things start looking bad.

They are just doing what mercenaries have been doing for millennia : cost a lot in peace time, loot the population, and run away or cut a deal with the invader when the goings get though.

A good example is the Russian "Africa Corp" in Mali. Expensive, atrocities against the population and cut a deal with the jihadist to run away when they came last month.

Re: Why is Vivado 2026.1 dropping Linux support for free tier?

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Trying to read between the lines, here are my lazy sunday morning guesses at what might be going on here: 1. The Xilinx team are pushing back on the increasing number of things they have to support. Silver lining, maybe this means they're being asked to work on a new product that will require redistribution of headcount (like maybe another NPU ) 1.1. Their Linux expertise is lacking / stretched across multiple teams…

What I suspect is more likely (given the couple of comments saying "you have to pay to run it on a server") -- Some higher-up in AMD's marketing department has the misconception that Linux isn't a real desktop operating system but is only run on servers. Therefore, all their Linux users are probably companies running Vivaldi on a server, likely using a LLM to do designs. And they should be paying for that.

Re: Why is Vivado 2026.1 dropping Linux support for free tier?

#250

I’m working in education and will change to other vendors in the near future. That means all my students will do so as well. Windows cannot provide feature parity for workloads that require cross compiling, AMD could at least support RHEL like the old days.

This is the obvious reaction. I wonder what AMD expected would happen if they cut off users, but the obvious expectation is that they'd start looking for alternatives. Especially Linux users, who are not typically inclined to pay licenses for software.
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