https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sticker%20shock oh. i thought it was about people putting up stickers like https://mastodon.social/@spellingmistakescostlives@mastodon....
AI sticker shock hits corporate America
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#42Well, if AI has a massive sticker shock attributed, so we should target the high value roles and should save money, right? So im looking at CEO, CTO, CFO, and all the chief-something-officer. If LLMs are that totally amazing at thinking, then we should be targeting upper management, not the workers. That would save a LOT of money for the shareholders! /snark We all know why they wont.
So it goes. Wage theft dwarfs the amount lost to street-level theft, robbery, burglary, etc., combined. The economic stimulus from correcting even a portion of annual wage theft would represent complete coverage of those violent thefts - economically-speaking, there would be no reason for criminals to carry them out. Why rob a gas station to get your drug money? Everyone around you is making enough extra at work that bumming a dollar here and there covers it. That sort of thing.
But good forbid we actually correct a major social ill at the expense of the people who profit from it.
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#43We use GH Copilot at work and this week sat for a presentation by GH about optimizing token usage and maximizing ROI on tokens used. Anyone else get this presentation? They didn’t have time for questions because they had to run and give it to the next big enterprise on their list…
They basically said that everything is too expensive, you have to watch it like a hawk. It was as if they poured a bucket of cold water on the room. People were wondering how they could do anything faster with all these strategies. And then “sorry no questions. Bye!”
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#44This is an important inflection point. When tokens get correctly priced, all of the insane over-investment in capital will need to draw back: buying data centers, semiconductors, and politicians. Even then, it won't be right-priced with regard to actual costs. The environmental impact should have been priced in from the beginning. There seems to be a parallel with subsidizing fossil fuels, under pricing them which en…
It rather looks like chatgpt/antrophic enterprise tokens and API calls are too expensive. Competition is quite strong on openrouter.
However, the real problem is running wild with token burning. With parallel agents calling subagents you can burn lots of tokens per minute. Especially with thousands of engineers.
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#45>Corporate leaders are starting to question whether soaring AI spending is delivering meaningful returns. We should start to question whether soaring CEO salary spending is delivering meaningful results.
Ah, that's not how it works : CEOs are rich so they are successful. They are successful so they are rich. Q.E.D.
Maybe in your fantasy world.
In reality people are rarely rich based on merit alone.
EDIT: Sorry it was a really clever joke.
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#46Overheard recently: "Thanks to AI we're producing more code and more MRs, faster than ever, but the milestones aren't getting hit any sooner. Actually the opposite, if anything." I wonder how widespread that phenomenon is. Perhaps it's no wonder the prominent actors are trying to rush to IPO...
Goodharts law. The metrics were always measuring the wrong thing, and now that we've finally optimized for the wrong thing successfully management will be forced to admit it and move on to another, slightly different, metric that doesn't actually equate to shareholder value.
It doesn't matter what the line actually measures, just that it goes up.
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
>It's baffling how these people have entirely shut their ears to all the obvious warnings about this, and are now congratulating themselves for their slightly less psychotic outlook and pivoting to blaming the workers for inefficient usage, after specifically forcing them to tokenmaxx. It's not baffling. They are a caste, wholly insulated from the consequences of their own actions. Almost every company is run in a ba…
> Almost every company is run in a basic dictatorial way. We almost never discuss it, when there is a wide corpus of political Science analysing the pros and cons of governance models that certainly puts it at the bottom. Is it not wild that in the Freedom Loving West, we all spend the vast majority of our time as adults living inside tiny totalitarian states? I think this persists largely because the people atop tho…
Is it too late to scratch your final sentence?
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#48We use GH Copilot at work and this week sat for a presentation by GH about optimizing token usage and maximizing ROI on tokens used. Anyone else get this presentation? They didn’t have time for questions because they had to run and give it to the next big enterprise on their list… They basically said that everything is too expensive, you have to watch it like a hawk. It was as if they poured a bucket of cold water on…
We did not have any presentation yet, but the first serious discussion about the cost of tokens has started on the documentation level. Looking forward to seeing these presentations!
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ah, that's not how it works : CEOs are rich so they are successful. They are successful so they are rich. Q.E.D.
Maybe in your fantasy world. In reality people are rarely rich based on merit alone. EDIT: Sorry it was a really clever joke.
I think you missed the joke.
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ah, that's not how it works : CEOs are rich so they are successful. They are successful so they are rich. Q.E.D.
Maybe in your fantasy world. In reality people are rarely rich based on merit alone. EDIT: Sorry it was a really clever joke.
It's sarcasm, obviously.