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Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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some people seem to be completely unable to detect AI slop

This biggest offender creeping into my feeds currently seems to be long form history videos. I'll be 10 minutes into a 90 minute WWII video and notice a completely incorrect pronunciation of something and realize what is happening. They're certainly getting better at fooling us. Especially when they speak slowly with a calm voice.

Why don’t you have preferred channels and content creators?

Things I would do before committing time to a random channel on a topic I’m interested in:

  - Search my trusted communities and channels for alternative recommendations on that topic
  - Ask (create a post) for recommendations on a topic in my trusted communities
  - Request my preferred content creators create content on that topic
  - Search for sentiment regarding the new channel (accuracy, trustworthiness)
It’s kind of surprising to me that people don’t curate trusted communities / channels, like 3Brown1Blue, Kurzgesagt, Veritasium, Hardcore History, etc.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

#643

Last weekend a group of friends and I sat by the lake. One had a guitar, and we were all singing off-key to old classics and dancing to salsa and reggaeton. We were doing it together, and it was great. Much more fun than listening alone or caring about the authenticity of the music or not. It was the participation, not the product, that was the key. Something went wrong with music and culture in recent times. Partici…

Trying to “level the playing field” is antithetical to what art is. Art is about self-expression and communication.

If we viewed art as some sort of competition or race, then someone using neural–network-based generative tools could avoid losing the race; however, everybody would be participating in some sport A and the person using ML participates in a completely different sport B. Everyone is running, but one person is riding a scooter.

However, art is not a finite zero-sum game[0]. Despite what formal music education for kids sometimes tries to make it look like, it’s not a competition, there is no global ranking and scoring system for your skill. Many people have an intuitive understanding of that; try going to a live jam to see people participating regardless of their hypothetical skill level.

[0] As further reading on this topic more generally, I recommend Finite and Infinite Games by James Carse.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

#644
post #448

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A friend of mine who is a very non-technical dermatologist listens exclusively to Suno songs she made. All in genres and styles of songs from her era, the 80s and 90s. Who else is going to make new songs for her? New music almost always targets young people.

This is interesting. I think AI music will be massive in a few years. It makes sense to listen to music made just for you by a model that knows you. You're bound to feel more emotion from that than trying to relate to something that wasn't written about you

> I think AI music will be massive in a few years.

Massive like Temu/AliExpress products massive.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

#645

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> people that I used to see idly sit at a screen and ingest things all day purely are creating things they like now and sharing them Like what? People say this kind of stuff all the time and it's either not true or they're generating things with very questionable taste.

Like the music being described literally in the thread you're responding to.

definition of "very questionable taste"

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

#646
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That's actually how I fell down the rabbithole --- found these long mixes and started listening, enjoyed what I heard, then tried to find out more about the author and realised it was AI-generated. People praising it in the comments seem none the wiser (or perhaps they're also bots). I admit to leaving praise on some of them, because they do sound really good, much better than what I thought AI music could be. Someon…

It also seems that there is a big percentage of people who are completely against AI music for a multitude of reasons. Even if they liked the sound they would still hate it if it was AI generated. But to me this seems silly. Yes I want real artists to make music and be able to make a living not some faceless company spitting out endless music until something works. However at the end of the day if something sounds go…

Q: But don’t you think that some AI music can be good enough to listen to anyway?

A: sorry i’d love to deeply consider this topic with you but unfortunately i’m part of the fuck off ai music movement so i won’t?

https://fuckoffaimusic.com/

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

#647
I see the comments below with the positive and negative aspects of AI, and I think there are very good points made. I've had this discussion before with many friends of mine, and the point I usually make is this: good or bad, there's no going back to the "good old days." I think of those movie trailers where the cast appears to plead with us to watch their upcoming movie in a theater, "the way it's meant to be seen." Do I agree with them? Yes. Do I think that as a society we're going to give up on streaming and go back to the theaters en masse? Not a chance in hell. You can always take a side on whether progress or change is a good thing or not, but what you can't do is turn back the clock. So the real question is: where do we go from here?

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

#648
By the way, also this:

> As this technology continues to improve, creators remain in control.

Well, some folks disagree that they are in control. See the rise of FairTube - granted, FairTube has infrastructure issues, but the problem is Google controlling videos via youtube. This has to change in the long run.

Also:

> Our commitment to responsibility

^^^ pointless self-promo by an AI slop adCompany. They censor at will. I know that because so many videos I had bookmarked, suddenly were taken down at a later time - and not by the original author. Often you can find the same (!!!) video again on youtube.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

#649

Last weekend a group of friends and I sat by the lake. One had a guitar, and we were all singing off-key to old classics and dancing to salsa and reggaeton. We were doing it together, and it was great. Much more fun than listening alone or caring about the authenticity of the music or not. It was the participation, not the product, that was the key. Something went wrong with music and culture in recent times. Partici…

> Something went wrong with music and culture in recent times. Participation became consumption.

There's probably more original music being created now than any time in history. Constant promotion of AI music is why you think it's not the case.

> Concerts became about filming a DJ twiddling a USB controller.

If you think being a DJ is more consumption than shouting cover songs near a lake, maybe you should try learn be a good DJ

> If AI music allows someone with less formal musical skills to feel like they are joining in and making something, then maybe it has its value.

If you are a musician you know there're absolute geniuses who have ZERO formal music skills completely self taught. Some are world famous names we all know. That was never the problem.

> I honestly couldn't tell — or maybe care — if many of the Bachata songs played at parties are fully or partially AI-generated. I suspect a lot are. But most of the reason I'm there is not to fetishize the authenticity of music, but to hang out with friends and dance and have a good time.

You contradict yourself. If music really doesn't matter then why AI? The crippling fear of supporting a real human musician somewhere?

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

#650

I'm curious where the line is.. several ambiguous but common scenarios: - Occasional AI b-roll during explainer videos - AI generated backing track (music) - AI generated shots sprinkled in a short film - Showing examples of AI video as an AI capability update or commentary

More scenarios: - AI generated VFX on top of non-AI video - AI upscaling of low res footage - AI frame interpolation for synthetic slow-mo - Modified / composited AI video - Footage created by "Extend Scene" features in Premiere Pro and others - Word correction from tools like Descript - AI relighting or colorization - Reaction video to a video containing AI-generated content And in general, what amount of combinatio…

> - AI upscaling of low res footage

I'd say this is far more problematic than plain slop.

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