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Re: I analysed 20 years of my chats

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Post by actionfromafar »

darkwater wrote: post #54
outime wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Logs are stored on local devices and many people back them up in whatever cloud (majority not encrypted). You or the other person could lose the device and someone could use your PIN/password (something as simple as shoulder surfing while you use it). There could also be a leak in whatever cloud service you're using, or the data could get subpoenaed because of some dumb law that gets passed, some rogue employee, etc.…

You are proposing scenarios in which the only safe posture is to not chat at all...

Not really, if you accept the risk of it happening but you shrink the blast radius.

Re: I analysed 20 years of my chats

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Post by outime »

darkwater wrote: post #54
outime wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Logs are stored on local devices and many people back them up in whatever cloud (majority not encrypted). You or the other person could lose the device and someone could use your PIN/password (something as simple as shoulder surfing while you use it). There could also be a leak in whatever cloud service you're using, or the data could get subpoenaed because of some dumb law that gets passed, some rogue employee, etc.…

You are proposing scenarios in which the only safe posture is to not chat at all...

The whole thread is about permanently storing every single conversation forever vs conversations that get deleted shortly after. If the latter is chosen, the blast radius is significantly smaller.

Re: I analysed 20 years of my chats

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Post by vladms »

myst wrote: post #59
DesaiAshu wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You still can. Most people have more and less social periods of their lives. I have plenty of _very_ social friends in their 40s/50s who weren't as social in their 20s. Or the opposite. Life is long, and many of us need decades focused inwards with others focused outwards

Doing it late(r) only adds to the pain of missing out before.

Just because you enjoy a thing at a certain time in your life, doesn't mean necessarily that you would or could have enjoyed a similar thing earlier.

Besides, social interactions are one of those things that don't depend exclusively on you but also on the environment and on luck. I had better and worse periods, I doubt I could have had only "great periods". Going through periods is how you also learn and get to put some effort to change (the environment and yourself).

Re: I analysed 20 years of my chats

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Post by lowercased »

ZpJuUuNaQ5 wrote: post #30

>15 close friends, 50 regular contacts, 150 active acquaintances Seems like a lot. For me, it's 0 close friends, 0 regular contacts, and 0 active acquaintances. I think I simply never developed any useful social skills which would help me make and keep friends or acquaintances. I wish I had (somehow) kept in touch with at least some people I have met throughout my life. It has never been easier to stay in contact tha…

Perhaps the name "ZpJuUuNaQ5" makes it harder for people to be able to do casual chit chat and introduce you to their friends?

Re: I analysed 20 years of my chats

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Post by mgh2 »

wholinator2 wrote: post #53
mgh2 wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This largely depends on luck, though it can improve your chances. There are places where you can be a regular your entire life and never meet a meaningful person, while at other times, simply being in the right place at the right time can lead you to someone with whom you develop a lifelong relationship.

Yes, it does have a component of luck. But it also has a component that's not luck, namely the showing up part. Of course there's no "friend solution" and i wouldn't go looking for friends by sitting in the corner of a cafe on my laptop all day. But i bet going to a makerspace, or a hobby meet, is basically guaranteed to make friends within 1 to 3 months of attendance. So don't let the doubt prevent you from going. T…

Of course you have to be proactive, but even then, people for any reason, might not be open to connect - language, culture, clique, personality, etc. You just have to find the tribe you vibe with, and that is mostly luck.

Re: I analysed 20 years of my chats

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Post by sureMan6 »

ZpJuUuNaQ5 wrote: post #30

>15 close friends, 50 regular contacts, 150 active acquaintances Seems like a lot. For me, it's 0 close friends, 0 regular contacts, and 0 active acquaintances. I think I simply never developed any useful social skills which would help me make and keep friends or acquaintances. I wish I had (somehow) kept in touch with at least some people I have met throughout my life. It has never been easier to stay in contact tha…

You have to find people you value, then it'll feel worth it

Re: I analysed 20 years of my chats

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Post by bauruine »

freehorse wrote: post #19
NDlurker wrote: post #2

I wanted to do this so bad back in like 2009. I archived MSN messenger chats and my texts and everything and I figured sometime in the future I'd be able to analyze them and maybe even train a chat bot to imitate me. But over the years I lost hard drives and cell phones and accidentally deleted stuff and yeah it didn't happen. Very cool this guy was able to do it

I have my msn logs along with a lot of old stuff in an ecrypted hard drive with a password I have forgotten. I am waiting for divine enlightment to remember the password, or quantum computers to finally come. Weirdly glad to hear I am not the only one effectively having lost them.

quantum computers won't save you as they aren't helping you crack symmetric encryption like AES which is most likely used for an encrypted hard disk.

https://words.filippo.io/128-bits/

Re: I analysed 20 years of my chats

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Post by dwedge »

saligne wrote: post #37
dwedge wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd be pretty angry if I found out someone I chatted to on Signal was running a service to workaround my message expiry choice and archive my messages. And breaking that trust just to run it through an LLM?

Be angry then, IM communication is not a contract with terms unilaterly decided by one party. Or put a confidential signature with every message, see how well that works for you

Be a better person. Or at least put a message in your status that you record everything and send it to Google for analysis for minimum personal gain. Do you also carry a second phone to take a photo just in case someone sends you a disappearing photo?

Re: I analysed 20 years of my chats

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Post by ifh-hn »

Why do people keep chats? I have none, oldest is 6 months which is when I set my chat app to delete them. I'm the same with emails. Genuinely don't understand why you'd want to keep this stuff. I'd never go back and reread them.

Re: I analysed 20 years of my chats

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Post by salviati »

ifh-hn wrote: post #69

Why do people keep chats? I have none, oldest is 6 months which is when I set my chat app to delete them. I'm the same with emails. Genuinely don't understand why you'd want to keep this stuff. I'd never go back and reread them.

I'm not sure if it needs to be said, but one thing that is possible only if you keep your old chats is the analysis TFA made.
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