Having done multiple martial arts (Judo, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and Filipino martial arts and, if you count it, fencing) I've come to the conclusion that Aikido is the Lisp of the martial arts world: - it's considered very beautiful - it takes a long time to become fluent in it - it "expands your mind" - in theory it can "work on the street" but in practice people reach for other tools
I am not a black belt
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#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
I came to reply with some form of this. Aikido demonstration is cooperative. Uke and nage. Somebody throws and somebody receives the throw. I'm not one of those "Aikido is fake" people, but Aikido has no tournaments and isn't represented in MMA for a reason. If you're in a real fight and properly distributing your weight, things you see in Aikido just don't happen. That's not shade on Aikido. It's a worthy effort for…
> Aikido demonstration is cooperative. Uke and nage. Somebody throws and somebody receives the throw. I'm not one of those "Aikido is fake" people, but Aikido has no tournaments and isn't represented in MMA for a reason. Judo and Jiu Jitsu have Uke and Tori for demonstrations. Same concept. Except when Uke gets thrown, they really get thrown. They will cooperate with the move but they aren’t providing the momentum. I…
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
I came to reply with some form of this. Aikido demonstration is cooperative. Uke and nage. Somebody throws and somebody receives the throw. I'm not one of those "Aikido is fake" people, but Aikido has no tournaments and isn't represented in MMA for a reason. If you're in a real fight and properly distributing your weight, things you see in Aikido just don't happen. That's not shade on Aikido. It's a worthy effort for…
If you want a stand-up grappling martial art that hasn't lost most of its martial roots, just go with Judo (or one of the various wrestling variants).
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#24Having done multiple martial arts (Judo, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and Filipino martial arts and, if you count it, fencing) I've come to the conclusion that Aikido is the Lisp of the martial arts world: - it's considered very beautiful - it takes a long time to become fluent in it - it "expands your mind" - in theory it can "work on the street" but in practice people reach for other tools
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#25Regarding the title: Shodan black belts in most martial arts mean you can execute 80% of the techniques competently. After shodan you're supposed to perfect them and worry about stuff like when to use one technique and not another...
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#26I watched that video a dozen times and I still don’t understand where the angular momentum came from. That guy must have been trying to throw himself, right??
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#27Interesting, other choreographies don’t use belts to indicate levels. Like “I am 2nd dan salsa dancer”
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> Aikido demonstration is cooperative. Uke and nage. Somebody throws and somebody receives the throw. I'm not one of those "Aikido is fake" people, but Aikido has no tournaments and isn't represented in MMA for a reason. Judo and Jiu Jitsu have Uke and Tori for demonstrations. Same concept. Except when Uke gets thrown, they really get thrown. They will cooperate with the move but they aren’t providing the momentum. I…
Judo and Aikido founders were pals in the military. There is a handful of koshi nague throwing techniques that are identical in both schools, and are done without any of uke's momentum.
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#29I watched that video a dozen times and I still don’t understand where the angular momentum came from. That guy must have been trying to throw himself, right??
I don't know in this case. But I do know some of the moves are: "If you don't throw yourself, your wrist/elbow/shoulder/whatever will be dislocated or broken." And so the student, knowing this, saves themselves. IE the idea of rolling with the punches. Which is to say, some moves are to be judged on the possible result, not the one you saw. Whether that applies in this case, I don't know.
Or, you know, you can just let go...
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#30Nico choreography. Interesting, other choreographies don’t use belts to indicate levels. Like “I am 2nd dan salsa dancer”