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Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by doginasuit »

jagged-chisel wrote: post #599
doginasuit wrote: post #589

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I watched a documentary recently that had an indicator in the top right corner when the content was AI generated. I found it incredibly helpful. Every online video platform should let you label specific segments as AI generated, even better if it is a requirement with validation checks for certain kinds of content.

That’s the creator doing that, right? Is YT going to analyze the whole video and put a label on every frame?

Yes, it seems like the creator applying the label is the most scalable approach. But you could have the requirement and random sampling with consequences if it isn't followed. You could also sample based on video traffic and user reports.

It's a really valuable feature that I expect will eventually be the gold standard, it was surprising how helpful it was. I think a lot of creators will embrace it, it adds credibility/authenticity. You aren't just labeling the AI content, you are labeling the content that isn't generated by AI, with a validation layer to back it up.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by anshorei »

bilekas wrote: post #502
verst wrote: post #493

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I can easily create a 1 hour track in Ableton and have some minor variations every say 48 measures. It's basically just copy paste with some parameter variation which can be scripted. So not everything like that is necessarily AI generated!

> I can easily create a 1 hour track in Ableton and have some minor variations every say 48 measures. It's basically just copy paste with some parameter variation which can be scripted. What's the difference with AI doing it instead of your script ?

Is human-scripted art (e.g. https://nannou.cc/) art? Is music programmed to play on an orchestrion art? Is the music produced using a modular synth setup art?

If your answer to any of these questions is "yes", and your answer to "can AI create art" is no, then there is a difference between AI doing it and a script.

That said the discussion around "human" art and "AI" art often lacks nuance, and I believe there's lots of space to explore art that uses AI. Humans produce a lot of crappy art, this crappy art requires humans to invest time and effort. With AI it is possible for humans to produce lots of crappy art without investing time and effort, so an deluge of crappy AI art follows.

If I use AI to strip backgrounds instead of traditional greenscreen methods, is the end result "crappy AI art"? I'd hope no one sets those standards. I'd hope my videos would be judged as "crappy human art" since I still did the camera work the acting and the editing. If I use AI for visual effects in my video because I don't have visual effect training and don't have money to hire someone with experience (I don't make money from my occasional fun video projects), does that make it "crappy AI art"? I don't believe so. But somewhere between there and the content farm AI slop filling the Youtube servers there is a point where it becomes "crappy AI art" and I can't tell you where that point is because I'm still trying to figure it out.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by jongjong »

I got Netflix recently because I wanted my 4 year old son to have a bit of screen time. He is very active, loves to play outside, draw, paint and does a lot of different activities so I thought there's no harm in a bit of screen time... But YouTube was awful because he would end up watching creepy AI slop videos of extremely colorful 3D cars or airplanes or whatever... Very repetitive. Or sometimes there would be videos of colorful painted toys being washed with a monotonous voice repeating the same thing over and over and saying stuff like "Wow, it's big" in the most monotonous voice possible (and no, the toy was not even big)... There's something very creepy about hearing emotionally charged sentences being expressed with such dull apathetic tone and saying things that aren't even factually correct. Complete trash. I could feel myself getting brainwashed in realtime. No more YouTube. Definitely this AI slop should not be promoted.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by jappgar »

injidup wrote: post #474

Last weekend a group of friends and I sat by the lake. One had a guitar, and we were all singing off-key to old classics and dancing to salsa and reggaeton. We were doing it together, and it was great. Much more fun than listening alone or caring about the authenticity of the music or not. It was the participation, not the product, that was the key. Something went wrong with music and culture in recent times. Partici…

AI is the latest brick in the wall separating human beings from one another.

Your argument is like "people have been killing each other for centuries so when you think about it hydrogen bombs are not the problem"

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by darkwater »

microtonal wrote: post #584
mcv wrote: post #572

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I guess people want to prove they were authentically there, experiencing it themselves instead of watching it on TV. And I sort of get it. When I'm on vacation, I like making my own photos of everything, even if professional photographers have already made hundreds of far better photos of it. Somehow the ones I made mean more to me. And I don't even share those photos on social media. So on the one hand making your o…

When I'm on vacation, I like making my own photos of everything, even if professional photographers have already made hundreds of far better photos of it. I have found when looking a photos from 20 years ago, I skip most of the shots of only landscapes, buildings, etc. The only interesting shots are shots with the people that I travelled with in them. They bring back all the fond memories, the things we did together,…

Totally! And as a kid of a family who mostly took pictures of the monuments and landscapes, it hurts a lot to just see 3-4 pictures with us in it out of 24 (or 25-26 if you were lucky).

I still take pictures of monuments, or the sky, or the landscape nowadays with my phone, at least trying from some unusual or less common perspective, but I do take a lot of pictures of my family as well, especially in day to day moments. And print them, from time to time, in physical albums. It's just so different.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by darkwater »

madrox wrote: post #525
injidup wrote: post #474

Last weekend a group of friends and I sat by the lake. One had a guitar, and we were all singing off-key to old classics and dancing to salsa and reggaeton. We were doing it together, and it was great. Much more fun than listening alone or caring about the authenticity of the music or not. It was the participation, not the product, that was the key. Something went wrong with music and culture in recent times. Partici…

I was in a park today, and I watched a man play a saxaphone. Other people had stopped to listen to him play. It occurred to me that we appreciate this kind of public performance, but we get annoyed if someone plays their boombox too loud in public. I tend to agree with you about participation, but I feel like there is a note unsung here.

> I tend to agree with you about participation, but I feel like there is a note unsung here.

I think we value _effort_.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by fabianholzer »

codeflo wrote: post #491
injidup wrote: post #474

Last weekend a group of friends and I sat by the lake. One had a guitar, and we were all singing off-key to old classics and dancing to salsa and reggaeton. We were doing it together, and it was great. Much more fun than listening alone or caring about the authenticity of the music or not. It was the participation, not the product, that was the key. Something went wrong with music and culture in recent times. Partici…

> If AI music allows someone with less formal musical skills to feel like they are joining in and making something, then maybe it has its value. An emphatic no. What we need to do is to stop comparing every hobby performance, whether it's music or dancing, with the top 10 artists in their field. We need people to learn, and try, and feel safe to be visible and thus vulnerable in group situations without fear of being…

> What we don't need to do is to give everybody a Fisher Price toy with a "make it sound awesome" button.

A sincere thank you for this metaphor.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by jongjong »

spullara wrote: post #227
ellrob88 wrote: post #139

Curious to see if this will apply to music. YouTube seems to be filled with AI music these days - just do a search for "focus music" or the like, and you'll see creators pushing new 1-hr tracks every few days with no mention of where the music came from or the fact it is AI generated. People praising it in the comments seem none the wiser (or perhaps they're also bots).

A friend of mine who is a very non-technical dermatologist listens exclusively to Suno songs she made. All in genres and styles of songs from her era, the 80s and 90s. Who else is going to make new songs for her? New music almost always targets young people.

I'm in a similar boat. I don't like modern music. I was never a big music fan TBH though I did like a few really good pieces from my day. That said I never cared much for lyrics because I didn't find them relatable. I'm only interested in the tune... I like lyrics but only for the audio properties of the words; literally, I like the sound of human vocal chords.

The way I use Suno is sometimes I play Ukulele and discover a tune I like; I record it and generate a song from it.

I didn't take any music lessons. I'm 100% self-taught so my recordings are a little rough but the melody comes through and Suno polishes it up nicely and adds lyrics based on a topic I've been thinking about.

I find both the creation and listening aspects relaxing and therapeutic. I'm not a musician so Suno is the only way I could actually produce and finish a song. It's very clearly my melodies, my songs but it's enjoyable to hear them as a finished product. There is definitely an element of surprise, the lyrics are sometimes quite insightful and clever too and I can actually start appreciating the poetic aspect of music in a way which eluded me before.

I suspect that by the time most musicians finish refining and producing their own songs, without AI, they're probably tired of hearing it. Suno avoids that. It's a truly novel thing to be both a producer and consumer of your own music. Perfect for an introvert like me who can't relate to anyone except himself.

It's nice to see that some other people also like my pieces though I'm not trying to make a career out of it.

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