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DuckDuckGo search saw 28% more visits after Google said people love AI mode

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Re: DuckDuckGo search saw 28% more visits after Google said people love AI mode

#421

I actually like AI mode in Google. My main reason is if I just have a quick question it seems a lot quicker than logging into ChatGPT/Claude as I can just type it in the address bar. Of course DDG / others can do the exact same thing as they already have an AI mode. Maybe you can even set up ChatGPT as a search engine - not sure. The key for this use case is speed - it has to be nearly instant.

You could get the same result from registering ChatGPT as a search provider in your browser.

Re: DuckDuckGo search saw 28% more visits after Google said people love AI mode

#422

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Ads in Search make up a significant percentage of their revenue. It is also the gateway that gets people into the Google ecosystem. Ads make the money, but Search is still the consumer facing product that brings people to Google and keeps them there. It’s so ubiquitous people don’t even think about it or notice it anymore. I’m always surprised by how much people are still searching for stuff as we’ve moved from the o…

> but Search is still the consumer facing product that brings people to Google and keeps them there. And let's not forget, these are the same people that when searching for "eBay" will put an ad at the top of the results, linking to eBay, and then place eBay as the top search result. I've found it hilarious that every single search engine does the same thing. You can do it even in Apple's App Store too. (Not seeing t…

>But why the fuck should any company pay for an ad when the user explicitly searched for their product?

If you don't buy out the top-place for the query, someone else will. In a better case a competitor - imagine Facebook Marketplace being the top result for "ebay". In the worst - a phishing site. The latter happens quite often for software searches.

Re: DuckDuckGo search saw 28% more visits after Google said people love AI mode

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The same people who told you Google was going to zero three years ago because Search would become irrelevant are now telling you users will move away from Google because it’s removing Search. When will people learn that the quality of Google’s leadership is better than that of the average Joe on Hacker News or a random tech journalist writing clickbait articles?

Looks like you're making the common mistake of counting all people you disagree with as the same person. In this case they're clearly different - AI proponents and AI skeptics respectively.

But your 2nd paragraph is spot on.

Re: DuckDuckGo search saw 28% more visits after Google said people love AI mode

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how is duckduckgo using us?

duck shoves AI results down my throat no matter how many times I say no. And they are getting more aggressive with their ads.

DDG does offer a non-ai "mode" at https://noai.duckduckgo.com/

Re: DuckDuckGo search saw 28% more visits after Google said people love AI mode

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Wait, Duck Duck Go has some 50 million MAUs and that went to 65 million MAUs or so. Google has 5 billion MAUs, so some 15/5000 users went to Duck Duck Go. That doesn't seem damning. 99.97% of Google users didn't go to DDG.

Yep but most news readers are innumerate and scientifically illiterate so they just get swept up by the narrative.

Re: DuckDuckGo search saw 28% more visits after Google said people love AI mode

#426

My friends who previously had no interest in technology and never talked about it, are suddenly following tech news closely all because they hate AI being pushed so hard. One was just messaging me this morning about alternatives to Google search and maps. He ended up downloading DuckDuckGo. If Google isn’t carefully they’re going to push people away from their golden goose.

> If Google isn’t carefully they’re going to push people away from their golden goose.

we have moments like this every few years (almost as frequent as crypto waves in recent memory), but they keep chugging along.

couple years back it was all about saying the GPTs have replaced search for people and how google is dead. now when they implement the same, it drives people away.

i can imagine how it can be difficult to be in their shoes, when any change is met with negativity. no surprise that the core interface has...had not changed all this time.

context: left to ddg almost a decade ago in a similar exodus wave.

Re: DuckDuckGo search saw 28% more visits after Google said people love AI mode

#428

I actually like AI mode in Google. My main reason is if I just have a quick question it seems a lot quicker than logging into ChatGPT/Claude as I can just type it in the address bar. Of course DDG / others can do the exact same thing as they already have an AI mode. Maybe you can even set up ChatGPT as a search engine - not sure. The key for this use case is speed - it has to be nearly instant.

Me too. To be honest, I am not that interested in reading the first 5-10 search results to find what I am looking for. If Google can do that for me and summarize the main points, that's another 10 minutes of my life saved.

Re: DuckDuckGo search saw 28% more visits after Google said people love AI mode

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It's difficult to put my finger on it, but there is something about Google's AI UX that I deeply dislike. It has nothing to do with the quality of the response, which seems fine, but... The header and input bars are too big. The max width of the response is too narrow. The font is too large. The way it renders onto the page feels weirdly clunky. There is a whole sidebar in addition to the top bar just for two buttons…

I guess that's because they hardly ever build a product that's really theirs. Google Cloud came in response to Amazon (who built AWS because they needed it themselves), Gemini came in response to ChatGPT, etc. and it always shows

Re: DuckDuckGo search saw 28% more visits after Google said people love AI mode

#430

To be honest I use Google AI mode a lot. And Duckduckgo for private search. I default to DDG and use !g if I want to resign from privacy or find some merchandise to buy

You mean looking for merchandise is something you're fine being tracked and funneled into the product with the best SEO game?

actually yes. Google has better mechanism of finding the products I am looking for. Some would say this is serene acceptance (fifth stage of grief). Also when tuning my browser too much towards the privacy, I kept getting mugged by "please show all the bicycles on the picture" for too many times, so I acknowledge I will be shoved up in my a...throat with new models of the washing machine I've just bought, and the sexy lingerie for some reason, that I'm not really sure of.
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