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Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by cubefox »

tmoertel wrote: post #329
RobKohr wrote: post #325

Everywhere (reddit, YouTube, Spotify) need to have a button to flag and then flag as ai. Reddit really has it buried in multiple levels of menus. People are pretty darn good now at spotting ai. An alternative is just use ai to look at the comments. Almost anything with AI has comments complaining about it. All of these sites need to deal with it because it does drive away users.

And, as always, flagging will be abused to downrank content that people/bots/spammers/scummy-businesses/etc. would prefer you not to see.

This already happens on Hacker News. People frequently flag comments they strongly disagree with, rather than just downvoting them. Despite the fact that the "flag" was originally introduced to flag spam.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by 1718627440 »

dahrkael wrote: post #439
HDBaseT wrote: post #339

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is plenty of artists making music analogous to 80's and 90's classics. Not to mention millions of 80's and 90's songs she's never heard. I constantly find myself discovering new 90s Boombap, Hip Hop beats and tracks from underground artists. Unfortunately a ton of these aren't on Spotify, although they exist on YouTube in near endless capacity. A lot of my favorite songs of all time aren't great just because th…

elevator music doesnt need any deep meaning

Elevators don't need any music at all.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by viccis »

kuerbel wrote: post #506
codeflo wrote: post #491

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> If AI music allows someone with less formal musical skills to feel like they are joining in and making something, then maybe it has its value. An emphatic no. What we need to do is to stop comparing every hobby performance, whether it's music or dancing, with the top 10 artists in their field. We need people to learn, and try, and feel safe to be visible and thus vulnerable in group situations without fear of being…

I can't play like Lang Lang. Only Lang Lang can play like Lang Lang. Just because some mfing AI can produce something that sounds like Lang Lang does not make it equal: resemblance is not identity. If I see a performance from Lang Lang, I don't just perceive the sound, it is the expression of memory, discipline and attention. Learning an instrument is more than attaining the skill of producing the correct notes in th…

Every talented pianist in a major conservatory can play like Lang Lang and are trying their best not to lmao

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by 1718627440 »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #485
kibibu wrote: post #442

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It is, but also it's ok to silently judge people. If somebody told me "I choose to only read AI-generated books" I would also silently judge them.

What about the long tail of romance novels, fanfiction, etc though? 50 shades was an outlier in that it was popular but it's absolute drivel, and there is a lot of that kind of low quality writing out there.

Which is why it is also common to silently judge these readers.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by madrox »

injidup wrote: post #474

Last weekend a group of friends and I sat by the lake. One had a guitar, and we were all singing off-key to old classics and dancing to salsa and reggaeton. We were doing it together, and it was great. Much more fun than listening alone or caring about the authenticity of the music or not. It was the participation, not the product, that was the key. Something went wrong with music and culture in recent times. Partici…

I was in a park today, and I watched a man play a saxaphone. Other people had stopped to listen to him play.

It occurred to me that we appreciate this kind of public performance, but we get annoyed if someone plays their boombox too loud in public.

I tend to agree with you about participation, but I feel like there is a note unsung here.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by codethief »

topspin wrote: post #107
jameson wrote: post #74

I suggest turning off recommendation if you dislike what they suggest My YT landing page is completely blank and need to go "subscription" tab to see newly uploaded vids from the ones I subscribe to It's quite nice not having to view all kinds of random stuff YT wants me to see

This doesn't help when searching. I'm looking for specific things as often as I'm clicking on recommendations. What's needed is a global "Hide AI Dreck". Particularly the overwhelming hoard of AI slide-shows masquerading as reviews.

> What's needed is a global "Hide AI Dreck".

As a German, I couldn't think of a more appropriate usage of the word "Dreck".

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by NietTim »

Barbing wrote: post #375
alwa wrote: post #303

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It’s also OK to like what you like. She likes Suno jams. Great! I feel like this trope is strongest amongst musicians-feeling-underappreciated, but that the idea seeps in to all manners of creative work: that, because you’re rightfully proud of what you do, the audience is wronging you (or “lazy,” or “sad,” or “cheap,” or “tasteless”) by not appreciating it. It doesn’t make me feel a lot of sympathy.

That might be OK if Suno had compensated everybody they needed to. I feel sympathy for people who made something that was reappropriated by those without strong ethics.

Meanwhile you probably use Spotify or other streaming platforms without issue.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by latexr »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #485
kibibu wrote: post #442

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is, but also it's ok to silently judge people. If somebody told me "I choose to only read AI-generated books" I would also silently judge them.

What about the long tail of romance novels, fanfiction, etc though? 50 shades was an outlier in that it was popular but it's absolute drivel, and there is a lot of that kind of low quality writing out there.

If we’re comparing bad quality to bad quality, human bad quality is infinitely more interesting. The fact someone wrote, directed, produced, acted in, etc, in something like Troll 2 or The Room is what makes those movies special. It’s the fact you can go “god damn, someone thought this was good” and be baffled at specific decisions they made. It’s the curiosity of “what was going on there”, “what drove those individuals to do this”, “how much of it were outside forces”, “who are these people”. It’s all the reasons which make it worth it to make a movie about a bad movie.

With AI, even if you enjoy it as bad, as soon as you know it’s AI it loses all interest because there’s zero story behind it. The answer to all those questions becomes “a statistical algorithm made it that way”, and that’s objectively a boring answer.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by watwut »

injidup wrote: post #474

Last weekend a group of friends and I sat by the lake. One had a guitar, and we were all singing off-key to old classics and dancing to salsa and reggaeton. We were doing it together, and it was great. Much more fun than listening alone or caring about the authenticity of the music or not. It was the participation, not the product, that was the key. Something went wrong with music and culture in recent times. Partici…

Imo where I am from, asking people not used to dance to dance in public was always tall order.

And when you look at broader culture, people dancing seem to welcome only small or bigger mockery, unless they dance really well.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by viccis »

galkk wrote: post #443
HDBaseT wrote: post #339

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is plenty of artists making music analogous to 80's and 90's classics. Not to mention millions of 80's and 90's songs she's never heard. I constantly find myself discovering new 90s Boombap, Hip Hop beats and tracks from underground artists. Unfortunately a ton of these aren't on Spotify, although they exist on YouTube in near endless capacity. A lot of my favorite songs of all time aren't great just because th…

What is the problem if somebody doesn’t seek the deep meaning or anything and enjoys whatever she enjoys? Plenty of artists plain suck and discovery is a problem that requires time and effort. If somebody makes decision to like what they like (and made, to some extent) that’s their choice.

>What is the problem if somebody doesn’t seek the deep meaning or anything and enjoys whatever she enjoys

If you need it to be explained to you why it's a tragedy that a person's curiosity can atrophy (or fail to develop) to the extent that she can't seek meaning in what she engages with every day for enjoyment, then you might not have met the minimum requirements for this conversation.

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