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FBI arrests CIA official with $40M in gold bars in his home

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Re: FBI arrests CIA official with $40M in gold bars in his home

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How porous is the CIA's interview process that they couldn't validate the guy's military discharge status?

The type of people Intelligence agencies need and use to accomplish their goals are also the type of people who tend to do these things.

True, but hiring someone then, later, accusing them of lying in the admission forms that should have been verified before hiring them is bizarre.

I’m sure the CIA could come up with a better excuse.

Re: FBI arrests CIA official with $40M in gold bars in his home

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Why not carry 600 lbs of gold bars out into the forest and bury them, then hope nobody thought it was suspicious to see someone carrying a shovel into the forest on any one of the trips necessary to do it?

A small plot of forested rural land without utility service doesn't cost much at all. Go car camping at your new private getaway for a few days. This isn't rocket science. Also if you drive out to a remote part of the US who is going to see you? There are some very empty places in this country. Not quite on the level of Canada or Russia but still.

flock or any number of cameras that contribute to flock would see you.

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Yeah, that's why in a functioning State you have means to control the damage. But now we seem to have accepted it is a free for all and just throw ours helpless hands in the air and hope we are next to enjoy the criminal bonanza at some point.

Don't worry, this happens in functioning states, too. Well, the bastard spies part, at least.

For some specific jobs, not all of them, you need sociopaths. Still, the agency should always provide them with adult supervision.

Re: FBI arrests CIA official with $40M in gold bars in his home

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From last November to March, the court papers say, Mr. Rush asked for, and received, “a significant quantity of foreign currency and tens of millions of dollars in gold bars for work-related expenses.” Obvious plant nobody would be that stupid to store the valuables at home within the first six months after the „acquisition“. —— Also the CIA was unable to confirm his discharge with the navy earlier? As if people aren…

Honestly I'm just trying to wrap my head around the fact that you can just ask for $40M in gold bars as a CIA agent and they don't have a better way of figuring out if you pocketed it than looking for it later (and apparently taking a while to think of checking his home?)

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When it comes to stories involving intelligence agencies I generally assume that I’m not getting the whole or accurate story.

Yeah, the CIA is all about CYA.

Not really, but all about manufacturing a story that fits whatever version the country needs pushed. It’s covering the country’s ass.

Re: FBI arrests CIA official with $40M in gold bars in his home

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Gold is pretty soft. You would have to cut it to 10 carat, so there’s be even more to go around!

You could encase them in plastic to prevent damage and mask them for some run off the mill equipment. Nobody would suspect anything without prior knowledge.

But they feel nice to touch.

Re: FBI arrests CIA official with $40M in gold bars in his home

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How porous is the approving manager/chain that someone can request 300kg of gold bars and no one knows why and they just approve it any way.

I imagine a big difference is at most jobs the worst that will happen is you get fired, at the CIA you go to jail for the rest of your life.

I think that if you embezzled $40M at just about any job, you'd be looking at some serious jail time

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Or a huge gold statue of Trump and Epstein partying and raping children.

Black humor. Or isn't anyone allowed anymore to mention "Black" in the context of Epstein?

I prefer “dark humour”. After all, it allows some colours to come through.

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eh. the shady people are supposed to be the assets; the handlers are supposed to be squeaky clean (on paper, at least.) but yeah, I imagine that a job which requires keeping secrets and breaking laws tends to attract people who keep secrets and break laws.

They are not supposed to break laws in the US.

The mindset of law breaking probably carries across jurisdictions.

Re: FBI arrests CIA official with $40M in gold bars in his home

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eh. the shady people are supposed to be the assets; the handlers are supposed to be squeaky clean (on paper, at least.) but yeah, I imagine that a job which requires keeping secrets and breaking laws tends to attract people who keep secrets and break laws.

They are not supposed to break laws in the US.

They're not supposed to operate in the US at all. I'm practice I imagine that's mostly aspirational
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