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Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by quality_life »

MarcellusDrum wrote: post #230
wnmurphy wrote: post #211

I really want Spotify to follow. I feel cheated and deceived when I'm enjoying some music, then I realize that there's no bio for the artist and they released 7 albums in 2025. Users should be empowered to filter out AI content if they choose.

> I feel cheated and deceived Why? Not trying to argue against AI labeling, but if you are enjoying the music, why does it matter?

I care about rewarding real musicians, actual human beings, with my attention and, even love. AI slop gets in the way. Even "good" AI copies and appropriates from real artists, their style, their voice and even their history and relationship with their audience. Agree with me or not, there should be a global filter that allows me, the user of the service, to filter out AI generated content.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by habinero »

serf wrote: post #348
bardackx wrote: post #298

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find super HARD to believe that we ran out of musicians doing music in the styles of the 80s/90s maybe your friend just doesn't want to search for new music, and that is ok, it's ok to be lazy, not a crime; but saying nobody is making such music is a sad excuse.

easily liking any kind of music only on the merit that it is human generated seems lazy, too. similarly, firing up a music gen system rather than listening to a billy joel song for the 30,000th time seems less lazy. say what you want about AI systems, people that I used to see idly sit at a screen and ingest things all day purely are creating things they like now and sharing them. The thing is easier but the engageme…

> people that I used to see idly sit at a screen and ingest things all day purely are creating things they like now and sharing them

Like what? People say this kind of stuff all the time and it's either not true or they're generating things with very questionable taste.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by xphos »

zfoong wrote: post #281
echelon wrote: post #259

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> The idea that no one is making 80s or 90s style music is absurd. The idea that only humans can make music is absurd. > I guess she can listen to slob but maybe just look around a little instead? The idea that AI generated = slop is absurd. Humans create just as much, if not more slop. Look at 99% of "professional" output in creative fields. It's awful. A human with taste steering AI tools can be better than a "clas…

Rather than genuinely enjoying a well-made/actually entertaining AI content, people are just gonna blindly hate on anything AI-generated.

I think the cost pressures just make most AI generated stuff slop. Its not that AI can't make good stuff its that the slop to good ratio is 100s of times worse with AI published music than with human stuff. Simply because AI generation cost is essentially zero.

Purely a economic argument but also the rare good music from AI I am still looking its generally speaking not that cohesive and for unremarkable. A lot of human work is that to but the discovery of good music from people feels much less daunting

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by habinero »

taneq wrote: post #305
giancarlostoro wrote: post #283

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"Slob" / "slop" is thrown around so much I don't take anyone seriously who drops that word unless the output matches the commentary. There's definitely a lot of trash AI stuff out there don't get me wrong, but there's also insanely high quality AI generated things out there. Hell, I've sent people songs made in Suno, and they were surprised to learn that those were AI generated. If you open suno and type in "90s jazz…

I’ve been thinking the same thing about AI artwork (as opposed to “chat pls make me a funny picture” and seeing what comes out, although there’s some increasingly interesting things coming out of that approach). There’s often an insane amount of work going into the guts of the image generation pipeline. Sure, it’s not pencil-on-paper drawing things but to me, art is about creating and exploring. All the same vitriol…

What? Those things were absolutely not criticized in the same way. Most of the time they weren't criticized at all lol.

The problem isn't about it being "easier", it's about people who want the praise and attention of being a maker but don't want to put any thought or effort into it. They have no thoughts and nothing to say and what they generate reflects that.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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ellrob88 wrote: post #139

Curious to see if this will apply to music. YouTube seems to be filled with AI music these days - just do a search for "focus music" or the like, and you'll see creators pushing new 1-hr tracks every few days with no mention of where the music came from or the fact it is AI generated. People praising it in the comments seem none the wiser (or perhaps they're also bots).

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Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by cameronh90 »

spullara wrote: post #227
ellrob88 wrote: post #139

Curious to see if this will apply to music. YouTube seems to be filled with AI music these days - just do a search for "focus music" or the like, and you'll see creators pushing new 1-hr tracks every few days with no mention of where the music came from or the fact it is AI generated. People praising it in the comments seem none the wiser (or perhaps they're also bots).

A friend of mine who is a very non-technical dermatologist listens exclusively to Suno songs she made. All in genres and styles of songs from her era, the 80s and 90s. Who else is going to make new songs for her? New music almost always targets young people.

I have no issue with individuals choosing to listen to generative AI. I even occasionally listen to it myself when I’m deep working and just need to occupy that part of my brain (having previously listened to algorithmically generated music or those endless copyright free trance mixes for the same purpose). But I don’t like how it’s flooding discovery platforms to the point that it gets impossible to wade through slop and find actual bands that I could see in person.

It’s like when Etsy turned into a Made in China marketplace. MIC is fine, but if I’m going to Etsy it’s because I wanted something else.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by WheatMillington »

habinero wrote: post #392
serf wrote: post #348

Earlier quoted context omitted.

easily liking any kind of music only on the merit that it is human generated seems lazy, too. similarly, firing up a music gen system rather than listening to a billy joel song for the 30,000th time seems less lazy. say what you want about AI systems, people that I used to see idly sit at a screen and ingest things all day purely are creating things they like now and sharing them. The thing is easier but the engageme…

> people that I used to see idly sit at a screen and ingest things all day purely are creating things they like now and sharing them Like what? People say this kind of stuff all the time and it's either not true or they're generating things with very questionable taste.

Like the music being described literally in the thread you're responding to.
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