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Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by makeitdouble »

csallen wrote: post #200
cloogshicer wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This attitude of "individual cases don't matter as long as the average case is somewhat covered" is exactly why the world's going to shit. The parent post's worry is warranted, IMO.

You're wrong from your very premise. The world isn't going to shit. It's better than it's been at pretty much any time in human history, in almost every facet.

You're arguing the world is at its peak, they're arguing it's directed in a shit direction. You're not disproving them at this point.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by vlunkr »

spullara wrote: post #227
ellrob88 wrote: post #139

Curious to see if this will apply to music. YouTube seems to be filled with AI music these days - just do a search for "focus music" or the like, and you'll see creators pushing new 1-hr tracks every few days with no mention of where the music came from or the fact it is AI generated. People praising it in the comments seem none the wiser (or perhaps they're also bots).

A friend of mine who is a very non-technical dermatologist listens exclusively to Suno songs she made. All in genres and styles of songs from her era, the 80s and 90s. Who else is going to make new songs for her? New music almost always targets young people.

There are millions of people making music in an ever-expanding set of genres. The idea that no one is making 80s or 90s style music is absurd. I guess she can listen to slop but maybe just look around a little instead?

Edit: slop not slob

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by Sohcahtoa82 »

tredre3 wrote: post #41
luckylion wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

_before_? youtube is like the top 1000 creators / influencers / celebrities, 5% actual videos, and the rest is slop of various types for me. The search is entirely gone and will straight up not list regular content that was made by humans, but it will absolutely surface the cheap AI-voices that can't say HVAC fluently. Makes sense for youtube, too. For the average person, that seems to be enough, the ads are the same…

If you only visit youtube.com logged out in a private window, obviously it's going to show you what's the most popular. What else should it be doing? Personally I never see those top 1000 creators / influencers / celebrities. If anything I find the recommendation algorithm too tuned to my topics of interest so it rarely surfaces new things. Agreed on the search being less than useless, though.

I'm of the opinion that people who get recommended constant slop are doing something very wrong, likely going out of their way to anonymize themselves as much as possible, then being all Surprised Pikachu when YouTube can't figure out what kind of content they like, so they get recommended the lowest common denominator popular stuff.

My feed is all channels I'm subscribed to or content from other creators that make similar content. I don't get Mr Beast or any other the other crap that people complain about.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by ThrustVectoring »

throwaway85825 wrote: post #222
lelandfe wrote: post #212

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Look up Xania Monet. AI artist “signed” to Warner Bros with a multimillion contract after “she” charted on Billboard. There’s an appetite for this.

Just re-upload it. AI generated work cant be copyrighted.

Even if the courts won't uphold the copyright, that doesn't prevent people from claiming your videos and initiating YouTube's copyright process against you. This is a recurring problem for people who upload their own original performances of public-domain compositions, particularly solo piano.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by CivBase »

zulban wrote: post #144
nickvec wrote: post #133

I have a hard time believing that AI can be used to label AI-generated videos without there being a significant number of false positives/negatives. I think back to ZeroGPT and it labeling the Declaration of Independence as AI-generated.

In theory you're right, in practice you're not. We don't need the metaphysical solution to the problem of detecting AI videos for the rest of time. Certainly, it's fairly easy to make something that mostly works most of the time. Enough to be very, very useful.

> something that mostly works most of the time

Problem is that at YouTube's scale the remaining "some of the time" ends up being a collossal figure. On top of that, YouTube's effective monopoly position magnifies the damage done by false positives.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by starkeeper »

Too bad they are not including the script writing, some people pass on the visual but you can tell in 10 seconds or less it was written by AI - or an AI voice that is reading AI written slop.

I would not mind either one if it was quality. But it's NOT this, it's sloppy that!

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by saltyoldman »

csallen wrote: post #200
cloogshicer wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This attitude of "individual cases don't matter as long as the average case is somewhat covered" is exactly why the world's going to shit. The parent post's worry is warranted, IMO.

You're wrong from your very premise. The world isn't going to shit. It's better than it's been at pretty much any time in human history, in almost every facet.

Yeah I get the pretty much, the car was near the mountain top in the 80s and 90s and "pretty much" flew off a cliff more recently. Sure, we're still alive but everyone is going to die in about 5 seconds.

Drugs are out of control. Homeless are everywhere. No one has interests in anything. No one is having kids. All jobs are going to be gone soon. Colleges can't teach (it's all AI cheating now). People are Gang Robbing stores. Cartels are killing hundreds daily. Fraud is out of control. We have 2 maybe 3 world wars going on simultaneously now. Prices are skyrocketing.

Yeah I get why you say "pretty much". lol PS good luck buying a house

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by montag »

TylerE wrote: post #239
spullara wrote: post #227

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A friend of mine who is a very non-technical dermatologist listens exclusively to Suno songs she made. All in genres and styles of songs from her era, the 80s and 90s. Who else is going to make new songs for her? New music almost always targets young people.

The large number of actual bands from that era still around?

Consider yourself lucky if they still make music in their vintage style

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by floxy »

numpad0 wrote: post #231
floxy wrote: post #220

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This isn't even at the level of the spam filter on your email account. Are there some false positives and negatives? Yes. Are there some people sending emails who are negatively affected by falsely ending up in the junk mail folder? Yes. Are we going to turn off spam filtering because of this? No. Why should we accept video spam any more than text spam?

The problem is that it's not SOME false positives, AI detectors so far have been all so comically bad that they might be classified as pseudoscience. Or an artificial false positive generators even.

We'll I'd think that YouTube would have incentive to get it right. Either there are too many false positives and the content creators go away and YouTube collapses. Or there are too many false negatives and the viewers go away, and YouTube collapses. I mean there is a chance that garbage people will ruin video sharing platforms for everyone.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by terio »

tayo42 wrote: post #240
dmix wrote: post #196

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Plenty of big artists like Kanye use AI to experiment with ideas before releasing the full studio recordings. That’s going to become more common. Just like how developers use LLMs to make a POC to test new ideas before putting the hard work into making it real.

People still admit to listening to Kanye since he started talking about his love of Hitler?

People are still buying Teslas?
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