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What Apple and Google are doing to push notifications

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Re: What Apple and Google are doing to push notifications

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Post by 0cf8612b2e1e »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #99
lanerobertlane wrote: post #24

If my phone interrupts me, it should either mean someone genuinely needs my attention right now or it should not be disrupting me at all. That's my notification set up. Apps allowed to receive push notifications Phone, Messages, Whatsapp, Apple Health, [brand] bank. That concludes the list. There is no reason any other app needs to be able to instantly ping me. Most apps are not notifying you because something matter…

Yeah, this entire article is pretty transparent that it's from the sender perspective, and worried about platforms taking over "sender control". Who is he kidding? The vast majority of apps have absolutely proven they can't be trusted to respect your attention. From my perspective, the more roadblocks the platforms put between unnecessary notifications and my phone, the better. And I don't think Apple or Google are s…

I recently had to setup Microsoft Authenticator. It refused to register a code unless I enabled notifications.

You are a two factor app. I should never be in a situation where there is an unexpected login I need to verify.

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Post by wanderingmind »

The default must be pull, unless opt in for push. At the moment I would like notifications once a day or once a week for most apps. But instead I ha e turned it off completely, because of the push abuse. If I can configure to pull all the notifications on a predetermined cycle, it makes my life even better

Re: What Apple and Google are doing to push notifications

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Post by criddell »

al_borland wrote: post #125
cadamsdotcom wrote: post #103

I’m constantly amazed how passive people are with things that steal their attention My phone is in do not disturb mode 24/7. If your app notifies me about something pointless, it gets deleted and I start using your website instead I have a mail rule that moves any email with the word “unsubscribe” out of the inbox into its own tagged area. Every few days, I go in and unsubscribe to everything that’s arrived. Whenever…

With the retailer asking for a phone number, I don’t see how it would ever be worth even entertaining. They will give you a discount once, then have and potentially abuse your information for years to come.

You can make an email rule to filter those messages to trash.

I have my phone set to only ring for people in my address book. It’s probably time to do something similar for email. Not in my address book? Straight to trash.

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Post by Laurel1234 »

baby wrote: post #111

Android is better because they allow you to change individual notifications right from the notifications themselves + granularly do it there also. On iOS I have to find the right setting page and then all notifications are either on or off. Doesn’t make sense.

This only works if the app properly tags notification categories, no?

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Post by cadamsdotcom »

al_borland wrote: post #125
cadamsdotcom wrote: post #103

I’m constantly amazed how passive people are with things that steal their attention My phone is in do not disturb mode 24/7. If your app notifies me about something pointless, it gets deleted and I start using your website instead I have a mail rule that moves any email with the word “unsubscribe” out of the inbox into its own tagged area. Every few days, I go in and unsubscribe to everything that’s arrived. Whenever…

With the retailer asking for a phone number, I don’t see how it would ever be worth even entertaining. They will give you a discount once, then have and potentially abuse your information for years to come.

Yes - and a fair price would incorporate that.

Hence I doubt retailers will ever consider offering a fair price.

Re: What Apple and Google are doing to push notifications

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Post by hithre »

nateguchi wrote: post #3

I feel like this article reads like the author is upset that Apple + Google prevent / control certain types of notifications (read: spam) > Cross-sell, upsell, education and discovery can work on push Push notifications should only be for transactional notifications. I don't want another inbox for junk.

Depends. Blackberry 10 hub was strongly designed as a shared inbox instead of a loose system of notification like ios or android.

And it was awesome.

Re: What Apple and Google are doing to push notifications

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Post by aidenn0 »

balderdash wrote: post #9

I wish apple/google would implement better notification control - like the ability to turn off all marketing notifications, and a much better digest format

I just turn off all notifications for any app that sends me marketing notifications.

Re: What Apple and Google are doing to push notifications

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Post by aidenn0 »

sparselogic wrote: post #12

> Over fifteen years the channel has been rebuilt around one assumption: the receiver's attention is a scarce resource the platform is obliged to defend. … As a sender you are on the wrong side of that assumption, whichever way the control moved. Fascinating how the author openly frames the situation as the sender and receiver’s interests being opposed.

They are not necessarily opposed, just in tension.

A zealous guard of your attention will occasionally block something you would like to have seen.

That being said, yes most notifications are garbage and should be blocked.

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