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Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by loveiswork »

zulban wrote: post #144
nickvec wrote: post #133

I have a hard time believing that AI can be used to label AI-generated videos without there being a significant number of false positives/negatives. I think back to ZeroGPT and it labeling the Declaration of Independence as AI-generated.

In theory you're right, in practice you're not. We don't need the metaphysical solution to the problem of detecting AI videos for the rest of time. Certainly, it's fairly easy to make something that mostly works most of the time. Enough to be very, very useful.

Please tell me this is a joke, or that you're not building anything important at work. It's a very well known problem that YouTube's algorithmic moderation hurts a lot of honest creators, and their ability to make a living, when there is a false positive or is abused.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by ymsodev »

Anyone remember GAN? With enough iterations with a discriminator, we're gonna see more AI generated videos that are harder and harder to distinguish from real ones. What then?

Funny enough, this also seems to directly contrast Google's effort towards generating videos with better quality.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by nkhs89 »

dyauspitr wrote: post #164
zulban wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In theory you're right, in practice you're not. We don't need the metaphysical solution to the problem of detecting AI videos for the rest of time. Certainly, it's fairly easy to make something that mostly works most of the time. Enough to be very, very useful.

People make a living off this platform though, this could be really bad for someone that lives off of YouTube to have their videos labeled as AI generated. This would still be OK if there was a person at YouTube you could contact to manually review and reverse the decision, but that doesn’t really exist so there’s no one you can really appeal to in a timely manner.

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Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by xeeeeeeeeeeenu »

nickvec wrote: post #133

I have a hard time believing that AI can be used to label AI-generated videos without there being a significant number of false positives/negatives. I think back to ZeroGPT and it labeling the Declaration of Independence as AI-generated.

I don't know how YouTube's detection will work, but if it were based solely on watermarks, there would be many false negatives, but there shouldn't be false positives.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by numpad0 »

zulban wrote: post #144
nickvec wrote: post #133

I have a hard time believing that AI can be used to label AI-generated videos without there being a significant number of false positives/negatives. I think back to ZeroGPT and it labeling the Declaration of Independence as AI-generated.

In theory you're right, in practice you're not. We don't need the metaphysical solution to the problem of detecting AI videos for the rest of time. Certainly, it's fairly easy to make something that mostly works most of the time. Enough to be very, very useful.

This definitely needs substantiation. I've NEVER seen such usable tools EVER. AI flagging in general has always been very sketchy IME.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by Venn1 »

J_Shelby_J wrote: post #129

I don’t care about gen AI video content. That’s fine. Saves creators from having to buy b-roll. I appreciate cinematography, but it’s not what I come to YouTube for. What I absolutely loathe and instantly block is AI narration. That’s an instant deal breaker for me. And it’s gotten to the point that without a shot of the creator or obvious humanisms like microphone sounds, I assume a new creator is AI tts reading an…

I've resorted to lowering the quality of my recordings because of this. People are fantastically bad at discerning AI from properly produced audio. So now I leave in a couple of breaths and a little environmental noise to tap the brakes on the "AI slop" comments. Thing is, it would be trivial to add those to an AI narration.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by bahmboo »

jameson wrote: post #74

I suggest turning off recommendation if you dislike what they suggest My YT landing page is completely blank and need to go "subscription" tab to see newly uploaded vids from the ones I subscribe to It's quite nice not having to view all kinds of random stuff YT wants me to see

Their recommendation engine has surfaced awesome obscure content I would have never found otherwise so I value it.

Stuff like random recorded conference talks with 3 views. A super enthusiast in Latvia.

It does recommend crap sometimes but on balance I like it.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by ArcaneMoose »

I'm curious where the line is.. several ambiguous but common scenarios:

- Occasional AI b-roll during explainer videos

- AI generated backing track (music)

- AI generated shots sprinkled in a short film

- Showing examples of AI video as an AI capability update or commentary

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by nixass »

ellrob88 wrote: post #139

Curious to see if this will apply to music. YouTube seems to be filled with AI music these days - just do a search for "focus music" or the like, and you'll see creators pushing new 1-hr tracks every few days with no mention of where the music came from or the fact it is AI generated. People praising it in the comments seem none the wiser (or perhaps they're also bots).

> People praising it in the comments seem none the wiser

Or.. they simply like it? Regardless of what we think about it

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