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Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by AmbroseBierce »

exe34 wrote: post #78
AmbroseBierce wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I bet the cameras' companies will start automatically uploading the real footage to their servers for attestation, and allow the camera owners to get those links, so people will just add that link on YouTube or whatever and say "See, its real, Sony vouches for it", heck maybe they will make their buyers to sign up with YouTube and do it for them.

They can attest pictures of my hairy pendulous ballsack.

Joking and all but sexting would benefit from this technology, if it can vouch about the time, GPS location and email address of the owner then the receiver can have some certainty about the pic (if the sender decides to share such attestation link/info, of course)

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by elashri »

Jubijub wrote: post #77
dragontamer wrote: post #62

Can YouTube stop shoving terrible robot-English AI dubs down my throat? I once looked up a German language test. It was auto-AI dubbed into English. Ugggghhhhh..... There are also a lot of anime where the AI dub essentially removes the music and sound effects and leaves only a dreary AI voiceover. It's kinda crazy that Google is pushing this feature out....

You can configure your preferred languages in YT settings, so it doesn’t do that. The setting is obscure, but it’s there

The problem is that it doesn't even respect this choice. My native language is not English and most of the videos in this languages will be auto transcript to English. Even the last time I changed both the language and country and YouTube still managed to auto transcript to English.

The solution is a simple toggle to turn it off, not pushing it to our throat.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by _verandaguy »

scoofy wrote: post #49
p1necone wrote: post #23

Donning my tinfoil hat for a moment, YouTube is in a position here to simultaneously iterate on automatic AI video detection while also working out how to make AI generated video that's impossible to detect.

I think that "impossible to detect" is not something realistic if camera manufacturers are willing to start adding encryption signatures to their cameras outputs and are willing to vouch for them. I realize this would still allow fakes to be presented by governments in all likelihood, but not everyone.

Leica started doing this a few years ago in response to the first wave of AI images[0]. Other, bigger manufacturers (Nikon, Canon, Sony as well I believe) have also joined, though with less fanfare. Adobe is in the loop.

As someone with a passing interest in infosec and cryptography, I'm sceptical of the long-term viability of this kind of product; it only takes one person successfully extracting a signing key to undermine the entire project.

    [0] https://leica-camera.com/en-int/news/partnership-greater-trust-digital-photography-leica-and-content-authenticity-initiative

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by Applejinx »

jameson wrote: post #74

I suggest turning off recommendation if you dislike what they suggest My YT landing page is completely blank and need to go "subscription" tab to see newly uploaded vids from the ones I subscribe to It's quite nice not having to view all kinds of random stuff YT wants me to see

Likewise. The page is youtube.com and then just /feed/ without anything else there. That's the blank page, thank goodness they've not ruined that yet :)

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by kmfrk »

techtivist wrote: post #43

Honestly, this whole AI-labeling approach seems to be the opposite approach to take. Instead why not authenticate genuine "non-AI content". Work together with the hardware and software layer with an open approach, building on top of contend id. I appreciate the privacy implications here are complex, and Google is dubious on using any tracking/fingerprinting technology for its self-serving and privacy-invading motivat…

That's basically C2PA: https://c2pa.org.

I'm not super optimistic about it, and last I saw, Apple wasn't a part of it either.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by tencentshill »

asveikau wrote: post #4

The idea that you can automatically detect AI generated content seems misguided. It will make mistakes. I think I've heard of things being wrongfully tagged as AI generated on other platforms.

So far all it does to the video is add a small tag in the corner. It doesn't affect rankings or monetization. A false positive might annoy some subscribers at worst.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by oblio »

johneth wrote: post #82
chrsw wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's no way to switch back to the original audio track? I agree you shouldn't have to but I'm wondering if it's possible.

You can change the audio track back to the original. Not sure if it remembers your preference, though, so if it doesn't that probably grates.

It does remember it. At least on Firefox/Linux.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by sheept »

dragontamer wrote: post #62

Can YouTube stop shoving terrible robot-English AI dubs down my throat? I once looked up a German language test. It was auto-AI dubbed into English. Ugggghhhhh..... There are also a lot of anime where the AI dub essentially removes the music and sound effects and leaves only a dreary AI voiceover. It's kinda crazy that Google is pushing this feature out....

It's an option that individual channels can disable. Granted, it's opt-out, but YouTube emailed creators several times about it well before:

> Effective today, you can turn off automatic dubbing for your entire channel in your Channel settings > Upload defaults > Advanced settings > Automatic dubbing.

> Once auto-dubbing is enabled for your channel, while uploading a new video, you will also have the option to turn off automatic dubbing for that video.

So if you're seeing auto dubbing on a video by a creator who clearly pays attention to YouTube's algorithm and should be aware of the feature, then they deliberately opted to leave the option on, probably thinking that it can't hurt.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by bethekidyouwant »

dragontamer wrote: post #62

Can YouTube stop shoving terrible robot-English AI dubs down my throat? I once looked up a German language test. It was auto-AI dubbed into English. Ugggghhhhh..... There are also a lot of anime where the AI dub essentially removes the music and sound effects and leaves only a dreary AI voiceover. It's kinda crazy that Google is pushing this feature out....

Settings -> languages and then add German as one of the languages you know and it’ll never do this again

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by rtsil »

Jubijub wrote: post #77
dragontamer wrote: post #62

Can YouTube stop shoving terrible robot-English AI dubs down my throat? I once looked up a German language test. It was auto-AI dubbed into English. Ugggghhhhh..... There are also a lot of anime where the AI dub essentially removes the music and sound effects and leaves only a dreary AI voiceover. It's kinda crazy that Google is pushing this feature out....

You can configure your preferred languages in YT settings, so it doesn’t do that. The setting is obscure, but it’s there

That just tells it which languages to serve if the video has multiple tracks, including Ai-generated ones. "Keep original language" should be the default, or at least an opt-in.

And what about the atrocious title auto-translations? I'm in France, my browser is set to accept EN-us and FR-fr as languages, and my Youtube is in EN. And yet it keeps auto-translating the titles of some French videos. And the translation is so awful, it mistranslates many things and translates literally some obvious puns, that I can't believe they're using Gemini for this. They must have repurposed a 5-year old version of Google Translate. It is not consistent either, the titles are translated in the home page, but not in the channel's page.

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