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Re: Last.fm is now independent

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"The company has generated an operating loss for the year to 31 December 2024 of £690,252 (2023: profit of £1,509,544) and revenue of £2,215,381 (2023: £1,960,340). As at 31 December 2024, net liabilities were £45,506,488 (2023: £44,855,202)." "The financial statements have been prepared on a going concern basis on the grounds that Paramount Global has confirmed that it will continue to provide financial and other su…

Where did you get this quote? I can't seem to find the source

Re: Last.fm is now independent

#142
It was such a hassle exporting my data from last.fm to libre.fm when they were bought out in 2007 (and then all the founders left in 2009). But I'm glad I did it. While it's nice that last.fm is "independent" now, they're still for-profit and probably should be avoided.

Re: Last.fm is now independent

#143
post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's because the recommendation engine that Last.fm used back in the day was made the incredibly expensive way: the entire corpus was hand-tagged and cross-linked by humans atop an enormous CDDB. Last.fm, Audioscrobbler, and MusicBrainz (the association engine) were all linked together.

The recommendations engine used them but it's main strength was it was primarily based on collaborative filtering ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last.fm ). Essentially if people who listen to many of the same artists/tracks as I do have discovered other things I have not, then those unseen artists/tracks become candidate recommendations. It worked as well as it did because they had a user base of music fans with a w…

> The will need to get the numbers up, but I'm hoping them being independent again is a good sign.

The problem will be recovering from algorithmic poisoning from folks just scrobbling from spotify

Re: Last.fm is now independent

#144
post #135

Is anyone using last.fm in 2026? This made sense when people were playing MP3s in their Windows Media Player or Winamp, but as 99% of the people just stream music now, what is the purpose of this service? It has been maybe a decade since I met someone who actually uses the service.

I recently left streaming and started buying music again and in the process dusted off my 20 year old Last.fm account to begin scrobbling again

Re: Last.fm is now independent

#145
post #135

Is anyone using last.fm in 2026? This made sense when people were playing MP3s in their Windows Media Player or Winamp, but as 99% of the people just stream music now, what is the purpose of this service? It has been maybe a decade since I met someone who actually uses the service.

I really enjoy having almost 2 decades of my music listening history to play with + I use a couple different streaming services as well as vinyl and local playback, so it's nice to see my overall habits.

Re: Last.fm is now independent

#146
post #21

"The company has generated an operating loss for the year to 31 December 2024 of £690,252 (2023: profit of £1,509,544) and revenue of £2,215,381 (2023: £1,960,340). As at 31 December 2024, net liabilities were £45,506,488 (2023: £44,855,202)." "The financial statements have been prepared on a going concern basis on the grounds that Paramount Global has confirmed that it will continue to provide financial and other su…

Where did you get this quote? I can't seem to find the source

U.K. company accounts are public.

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/c...

Click “view PDF” for “Full accounts made up to 31 December 2024”.

Re: Last.fm is now independent

#147
post #135

Is anyone using last.fm in 2026? This made sense when people were playing MP3s in their Windows Media Player or Winamp, but as 99% of the people just stream music now, what is the purpose of this service? It has been maybe a decade since I met someone who actually uses the service.

I still listen to the majority of my music as downloaded MP3s, but no, I do not use Last.FM anymore. I've become much more wary of being tracked and have no desire to give them information for free, much less pay for the privilege!

Re: Last.fm is now independent

#148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The recommendations engine used them but it's main strength was it was primarily based on collaborative filtering ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last.fm ). Essentially if people who listen to many of the same artists/tracks as I do have discovered other things I have not, then those unseen artists/tracks become candidate recommendations. It worked as well as it did because they had a user base of music fans with a w…

> The will need to get the numbers up, but I'm hoping them being independent again is a good sign. The problem will be recovering from algorithmic poisoning from folks just scrobbling from spotify

Just filter out Spotify entries. Scrobbles are tagged with the source.

Re: Last.fm is now independent

#149
post #6

Man i love last.fm even though it's been technically superseded (for most people) by Spotify's recommendation features. It just fit so well in the zeitgeist of 2000's indie scene, microblogs, early social media.

For me last.fm's value lies in the community aspect: you can leave a comment on any artist, album, or individual track's page. There's not a single other place on the internet where I can go to to see what the people think of a song I'm listening to at any given moment (apart from perhaps YouTube, but we all know what the comments there are like - last.fm attracts a more sophisticated crowd by nature). Unfortunately…

I think RateYourMusic also allows for commenting pretty much on everything (and it also extends to film and, IIRC, videogames).

It might not be as friendly as last.fm on the surface, but it is surely richer in content, and more diverse. It's a gem, and I hope Sonemnic (?) doesn't drive it to the ground.

Re: Last.fm is now independent

#150
post #6

Man i love last.fm even though it's been technically superseded (for most people) by Spotify's recommendation features. It just fit so well in the zeitgeist of 2000's indie scene, microblogs, early social media.

I don't think the recommendation engines behind Spotify, Youtube Music, etc compare to the recommendations I got from last.fm over the years. The algorithmic ones seem to have a bunch of issues that bug me as a long time music listener and someone with a large music library. - their memory is short as hell so you can listen to something for a while, stop and then it'll suggest it to you later as something to "discove…

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