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Re: Valve raises Steam Deck prices

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Post by WolfeReader »

caymanjim wrote: post #51

Really tempted to sell mine. I have a 1TB OLED that I think I paid $649 for last year. It's a dumpsterfire* of a device and I hate it and never use it. Could easily sell it for more than I paid for it. * Too big and heavy to hold without sitting and resting it on my lap, which is a horribly-unergonomic position with neck strain. Controls are widely-separated such that even with my giant sasquatch hands, it's hard to…

Instead of a tiresome rebuttal of all your hyperbolic, insincere points, I'll just encourage you to go ahead and sell your Deck. Get it into the hands of someone who will appreciate it.

Re: Valve raises Steam Deck prices

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Post by jdprgm »

bluescrn wrote: post #24
fzeroracer wrote: post #2

I don't think it's much of a wonder why people are turning to 'anti-tech extremism' as everything around them suddenly is no longer consumer priced. Seeing computing rise anywhere from 1.5x to 2x in pricing while the job market is fucked is enough to make me extremely bitter.

I’m much more concerned by the skyrocketing cost of housing, energy, food, and transport than the cost of tech luxuries. If I never buy another GPU or console again, there’s more than enough quality gaming for several lifetimes available on older hardware and often very inexpensively.

The difference is those have largely all been steadily increasing every year for decades. Tech and entertainment (streamers etc) have been one of the few bright spots you could point to as something that would usually improve yearly.

At this point there is hardly anything left and I think it leads to some pretty dark scenarios when we have a society where we have somehow decided: fuck it, almost everything gets worse for almost all of you every single year.

Re: Valve raises Steam Deck prices

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Post by sedatk »

newaccountman2 wrote: post #70

jeez Steam Deck feels like one of the most disappointing pieces of hardware I have purchased. Def not worth at that price. My main problem with it is that it doesn't have a simple clickable on/off switch, and takes FOREVER to turn on holy shit it's awful and feels unusable almost every time I try to use it I have to leave it on sleep because otherwise it will never turn back on, and it brings me so much ire to intera…

Interesting, it's one of my most cherished tech purchases, and I use it extensively, both as a home console and while traveling. It's beautiful.

Re: Valve raises Steam Deck prices

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Post by sheepdestroyer »

dankben wrote: post #27
stuxnet79 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't forget that this is all intentional and by design. If the tech oligarchs have their way we will all have no choice but to rent compute by the token within the next 3-5 years. The era of the personal computer is over. Current supply chains & production capacity can't accomodate both the AI hyperscalers and regular consumers.

You're acting like companies like Apple would simply let "the tech oligarchs" make 20% of their revenue disappear

I don't want an apple blob I want to pick specific components and run linux

Re: Valve raises Steam Deck prices

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Post by doubled112 »

BadBadJellyBean wrote: post #56
wnevets wrote: post #12

> The 1TB OLED model got a $300 price increase, and now costs $949. How is it possible for the steam machine to be under $1,000?

I'd be interested in a bare bones version. That way I could shop for RAM and an SSD myself.

Sometimes it is heavily marked up, but I'll never be able to get it cheaper than Valve in bulk.

Re: Valve raises Steam Deck prices

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Post by devilbunny »

caymanjim wrote: post #51

Really tempted to sell mine. I have a 1TB OLED that I think I paid $649 for last year. It's a dumpsterfire* of a device and I hate it and never use it. Could easily sell it for more than I paid for it. * Too big and heavy to hold without sitting and resting it on my lap, which is a horribly-unergonomic position with neck strain. Controls are widely-separated such that even with my giant sasquatch hands, it's hard to…

> even with my giant sasquatch hands, it's hard to reach all the buttons

Did you find the OG Xbox "Duke" controller comfortable? I did. The Deck doesn't have the best layout IMO, but I don't have trouble reaching the buttons.

> readable text on the tiny screen

Definitely an issue, especially those over 40 - which, really, is sort of a major part of the expected market.

Re: Valve raises Steam Deck prices

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Post by xerox13ster »

malfist wrote: post #28
stuxnet79 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't forget that this is all intentional and by design. If the tech oligarchs have their way we will all have no choice but to rent compute by the token within the next 3-5 years. The era of the personal computer is over. Current supply chains & production capacity can't accomodate both the AI hyperscalers and regular consumers.

Thats one hell of a leap you got there. Things have gotten more expensive before. It won't be the last

Have things gotten this much more expensive at the same time that massive datacenters are harmonically distorting power delivery [0] to the point that it degrades the lifetime of your existing devices?

The AI datacenters are making things more expensive and at the same time destroying existing electronics. All this is happening at the same time that the major OS vendors are locking down their operating systems and creating device attestation frameworks.

Whether it is a coordinated effort behind the scenes is irrelevant, the real outcome of all of this is that the average home tech prosumer will not be able to afford to maintain personal hardware that remains compatible with mainstream services.

In light of the consumer market RAM shortages, all the consumer devices will transition to thin client architectures that offload all their real compute to the centralized cloud. You will not be allowed to modify these devices, and there will be nothing you can modify them to do. They will have no ports, using wireless charging and wireless connectivity, and likely even any UART will be left off the board, if you can get them open at all. Like the Apple Watch or Airpods, they will not be built to be openable, and opening them will be an irreversibly destructive act.

You will not be able to buy these devices, they will only be available on a subscription basis. You will own nothing and be told you should be happy.

Online major digital services will only be compatible with these devices, offering no endpoints for third party devices to connect.

[0]: https://archive.ph/f707o

Re: Valve raises Steam Deck prices

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Post by sheepdestroyer »

bsimpson wrote: post #26
crims0n wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That was my first thought, there is no way they are going to hit that console price point anytime soon... so they can either release now at a price that reflects the reality of the market, or hold on even longer hoping for a near-term miracle. If they wait too long, they risk not being a good value due to aged hardware.

The performance envelope was already uninspiring. They said it does better than some big percentage of the people on Steam, but it's not an obvious upgrade over my 2023 Legion Go handheld in anything but a bit more RAM (and it's only 8GB discrete VRAM, which may be paltry for 4K).

4k is only expected to be 1080p + DLSS, it's really good enough for that class of HW

Re: Valve raises Steam Deck prices

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Post by e40 »

PacificSpecific wrote: post #20

Never thought I'd be living in a world where my tech hardware purchases INCREASE in value over the years.

Now imagine TSMC being controlled by China. While I think it's fairly low probability, the imagination does create some pretty dystopian scenarios.
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