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Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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Post by utopiah »

tomashubelbauer wrote: post #552
nomadpgmr wrote: post #478

I called the local Apple Store, got what was probably an AI. I just needed the hours, so that was OK, but then it asked if I needed anything else. I asked for winning numbers to the lottery. It thunk and thunk and thought some more and came back with, I’ll have to pass you to a store employee. Now I know how to avoid 1,000 questions and get a live person.

I just keep repeating "operator" ad nauseam not stopping for anything other than the sound of the call transferring and that almost always works.

Better just play operator.ogg use your favorite media player on loop until someone does pick up.

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Post by ryandrake »

kraquepype wrote: post #604
ChicagoDave wrote: post #414

I have five Gen-Z kids that are pushing back on GenAI hard and they claim their peers are getting angry about how it’s impacted their lives. As a technologist I tend to lean into new things rapidly because that’s how I’ve survived in IT for so long. Since I’m not ready to retire I still have a vested interest in staying informed. But the OP has definitely identified a psychological issue I think we’re all going throu…

My oldest is on the tail end of Gen-Z and is vehemently anti-AI. This isn't a position I've been vocal about, she just kind of expressed her disdain for it one day. I've been in IT a while, and am more of an AI skeptic - but I'm OK with it being used as a tool where it makes sense in my field, and it certainly has some value.... but shoehorning it into everything and using it as a general replacement for human creati…

It makes sense. GenZ and younger have the most to lose from AI. Corporate America is absolutely giddy about its promise to make 50+% of white collar jobs redundant. I'd have a very negative view about it too, if I were just graduating college and looking for an entry-level office job.

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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Post by Balgair »

simpaticoder wrote: post #528
tardedmeme wrote: post #384

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is why executives think LLMs can replace everyone. They can see it can replace them , and project that onto everyone else. And they don't see the gaps in knowledge because they don't care about the facts, only the presentation.

I have a theory that most people at most levels of work deal with the same amount of mental complexity. The difference is that as you move up the unit of abstraction gets larger, so your decisions and knowledge cover more scale. E.g. the engineer thinks about functions; the business owner thinks about products; the investor thinks about companies; the president thinks about nations; etc. But people at the higher abst…

https://thebullshitmachines.com/

This is a bit dated, but I think the message out of UW is right.

To your point on bosses: Turns out, you can very much bullshit a bullshitter.

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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Post by rollulus »

I’m in the very same situation currently. A coworker vibe coded a PR for me to review. I asked: normally I would ask “why did you do xyz”, but what are you going to do now, proxy that question to your LLM? And is the LLM going to construct a “why” based on the nonsensical code it produced? Is this how we want to work?

The review is currently stalled in absence of answers.

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Post by Tade0 »

mittensc wrote: post #475
Tade0 wrote: post #416

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You'd generally find that out by vising another doctor and finding previous diagnostic was bullshit and you lost time. To be fair the human body is immensely complex. Every specialist will look at everything through the lens of their field, as at the very least they can rule out some things this way. I had a doctor judge that my tonsils need to be removed, but for unrelated reasons I went to two other and both of t…

I've seen doctors that: 1. Immediately said 'Cancer' to stomach issues on an old person. They just didn't care, another doctor resolved that. 2. Eye doctors that would not investigate anything and just prescribe eye glasses and would recommend local companies that they owned or had a stake in. 3. Fake gynecologists that did C-Sections brutally without any experience 4. Fake plastic surgeons with no experience just go…

Where I'm from half of these points mean actual jail time for the physician attempting them, most of the rest (like kickbacks) result in standing in front of an ethics committee.

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Post by adithyassekhar »

anal_reactor wrote: post #601
butlike wrote: post #362

I agree and on my death bed I'm going to realize I spent my life working from home, talking to a machine, and not enriching any person's life directly. It's just so gruesomely LONELY.

Yeah but that's because people suck so fucking much. 1. "Sorry can't come" an hour after we were supposed to meet - this alone kills 80% of my friendships 2. "I like edgy humor" and then a month later "I'm going to report you to HR" literally had this happen to me 3. Most people have very little depth and stick to superficial smalltalk, which I find very exhausting And when on top of that you say "I wish my friend ha…

This is the result of having everything customised to you. I don’t know how old you are and I am not going to assume. I feel the way we live our lives, algorithmic everything tailored to us, we just don’t accept differences anymore.

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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Post by CrzyLngPwd »

My partner had issues with an online retailer and contacted support, which happily went around in circles since it was an AI agent and wasn't well prompted.

I did get a cookie recipe out of it, though.

Aren't we all getting sick of it?

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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Post by bigfishrunning »

monkeydust wrote: post #254

Does it matter though. So if I have a problem with my telecom provider and I want to get it solved asap, I'd the AI can do this just as effectively as a human operator isnt that OK?

That's a pretty big "I'd". In my experience the answer is no, the AI is not as effective as a human operator (as long as the human operator is paid enough to care)
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