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Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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Post by morpheuskafka »

mrweasel wrote: post #14

For something like customer service, I can understand why an AI would be deploy, not that I think it should, but why are so many running things like Reddit bots? A few bots here and there for experimentation, sure, but as someone else pointed out, almost half of everything online is now AI generated. To some extend if it's not worth spending a persons time producing, I don't think whatever it is that you generated ne…

There used to be so much discussion of "brand safety" and people would flip out if their ad showed on a video that didn't align with company viewpoints, even though the company clearly wasn't the creator of the video.

Now, companies are deploying bots on reddit that post stuff in the company's own name with zero human oversight!

It just frustrates me that all the things you learn either in IT (and I would assume also in business school!) go out the window every year. Who even cares about risk assessments and having legal review advertising claims and all that? Why even go to school to learn how to build systems, whether business/legal or IT/CS, if everyone at the top has decided it doesn't matter anymore?

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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Post by ab71e5 »

dist-epoch wrote: post #281
mcv wrote: post #273

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Letting AI answer a personal question for you feels deeply disrespectful to the person asking the question, but also to yourself; you're signalling you don't know anything. If I wanted an AI answer, I could ask it myself. I'm not asking AI, I'm asking you. If you're going to give me an AI answer, it may be the last time I'll ever ask you anything.

Asking a question which is easily google-able/answered by an LLM is also disrespectful of that other person time, not to mention interruption/flow state/etc this was a thing in the past: LetMeGoogleThatForYou

Yeah but that was an explicit sarcastic response. I guess we need a 'letmechatgptthatforyou' link to show explicit sarcasm

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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Post by throwaway132448 »

This is all downstream of people not giving a shit about what they do.

It’s not about AI. If it wasn’t AI, it would be some other convenience.

There are a myriad of reasons why people generally give less of a shit now, that we can all opine about, but that is ultimately what has to change.

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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Post by embedding-shape »

Tepix wrote: post #476
embedding-shape wrote: post #293

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Plenty of these experiences can be found without disconnecting the electricity for multiple countries. Personally, I find musical events of all sorts are amazing for this, and completely AI free should you chose the right events :) This weekend Liquicity came to Barcelona (for the first time?) and being with other strangers, dancing all night long, to other humans playing us music and singing and sometimes fucking up…

The problem with live concerts is that a substantial number of people are holding up their smartphones in front of them and experiencing it through the screen.

As long as you don't, what's the problem? Let them miss it, find a new location you see better, then enjoy :)

Great way of preventing this is going to smaller events, tend to be a lot better in most ways.

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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Post by bluegatty »

Probably what you want is answers.

If the computer (AI or not) provided you with that convenience, you'd never want to deal with a human for a given task.

The 'mischaracterization' of AI as human - now that's annoying. We probably should not submit answers by AI in the form of human identities.

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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Post by lionkor »

dalmo3 wrote: post #207
lionkor wrote: post #124

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No it isn't an improvement. If I wanted the output of an LLM instead of a thinking, smart, real human, I would have simply asked an LLM. Nearly nobody who asks humans questions WANTS to get an LLM answer, that's simply not why people ask other people.

I agree with your sentiment from the perspective of the asker. But if I'm the askee, I honestly don't know how to navigate those waters yet. If someone asks me for help and I can find, through AI, a thread to explore, but I don't have time to explore it myself, should I not share? Do I say "Have you tried X?", where X is the thing the LLM suggested? Should I pretend that I did not ask the LLM? In the past, I could fi…

I think as long as nobody can tell you've used an LLM, it's fine. If you use an LLM to get your info and then respond, that's normal. Copy pasting or going "claude said" and then more or less just regurgitating is different, because you are no longer involved.

If I ask you, I want your thoughts, based on whatever you can find or know. It's difficult to articulate for me, honestly, but I hope it makes sense.

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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Post by hatradiowigwam »

morpheuskafka wrote: post #448
sschueller wrote: post #127

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True but how many times have people sent someone "let me google that for you". Some people are inherently lazy and unload their laziness to someone else to do the thinking for them. I still think sending someone an AI answer is terrible but then again, if you are going to ask me for help, at least make some effort first. EDIT: By laziness I mean that there are known places (they know of) with documentation that cover…

> True but how many times have people sent someone "let me google that for you". Sure, but that's for reddit comments. No one would do that at work or they would be fired. The OP is talking about people using ChatGPT to speak for them at work, perhaps out of laziness, but I've also seen comments where people were trying to look smart in meetings (or cover up their lack of attention). You also made a good point that a…

People actively do that at work. My employer is a large [US] government financial entity, that likely holds your mortgage and the mortgage of people you know. Our profit this last quarter was publicly reported as 3.6 billion dollars. Most people will respond to any question with an OpenAI-generated answer, and you'll notice it most when 3 or 4 people in a teams chat all reply with a near-identical answer to a question you ask in the channel. I can't overstate how much AI is used here, or how zealous the leadership is in pushing us to use it for...everything.

Just wanted to point out that people are doing it at work, not getting fired, and this isn't some 2-bit business you haven't heard about.

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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Post by metalliqaz »

My_Name wrote: post #466
torben-friis wrote: post #60

>But even when I talk to people, they forward my questions to AI and send me the AI’s answer. This is the killer issue. It's so profoundly saddenning, it feels like watching an adult being asked a question and calling mom to answer for them. There is something deeply disturbing in it that makes me feel I'm not talking to a self sufficient entity.

Most people are not self-sufficient entities. 10% are so unable to think that they are simply not able to be a net positive in any job, it takes more energy/time to micromanage them, even for simple tasks, than they put back into the business. 50% are incapable of real innovation. Having met people in my life, an AI is better than most of them by any objective measure IMO.

I agree with your assessment of people. I find that there is a lot of overlap with this old quote:

    Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.
AI is the perfect product for that third group.

However I disagree in that I don't want to "talk to AI" either. Any time anyone sends me AI output, I simply reply that I can prompt GPT myself, if I want; just send me the inputs.

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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Post by sofixa »

FuriouslyAdrift wrote: post #468
ToucanLoucan wrote: post #412

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I accomplish the same thing by saying "fuck" a lot. :D Edit: Who downed this!? Good god some of y'all need to touch some grass and live a little, none of us are getting out of here alive, relax for goodness sakes lol

I've gone back to just calling people on the phone like a true savage.

Unfortunately that's not enough, voice AI is very good nowadays,
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