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Re: Private equity bought America's essential services

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Not all PE problems are existential; they will be outcompeted. What keeps a newly graduated Veterinarian from opening her own clinic and undercutting the PE competition? With no massive loans on her books, she can profitably offer lower prices than PE can. She may even drive the local PE clinic out of business.

who are these grads graduating without massive loans hanging over their heads?

Re: Private equity bought America's essential services

#122

Not all PE problems are existential; they will be outcompeted. What keeps a newly graduated Veterinarian from opening her own clinic and undercutting the PE competition? With no massive loans on her books, she can profitably offer lower prices than PE can. She may even drive the local PE clinic out of business.

Yet there is no evidence of this happening in any industry or area where PE has become the dominant player. Why not? What you’re saying is nice economic theory but it’s clearly not happening.

Re: Private equity bought America's essential services

#123

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If you own a business and wish to retire, your options are pretty much to sell, pass it on to someone, or dismantle it. I don't know how this is even a question really. Where in the article or the comment section is anyone saying they shouldn't be selling?

Your comment is entirely conjecture. Even if we assume it is correct, no young person is creating similar businesses? If so that’s the root cause, not PE, since the alternatives would be all of these businesses shut down anywhere per your reasoning, backlog increase and the remaining businesses increase prices anyway.

This is a comment section. Much of it is conjecture. You are making (implicit) conjectures that there are no systemic causes of these sales to PE so you can place blame on the sellers instead of the looters and pillagers themselves.

Re: Private equity bought America's essential services

#124

Not all PE problems are existential; they will be outcompeted. What keeps a newly graduated Veterinarian from opening her own clinic and undercutting the PE competition? With no massive loans on her books, she can profitably offer lower prices than PE can. She may even drive the local PE clinic out of business.

"Lower your prices to compete with massive sources of capital" Great idea.

Re: Private equity bought America's essential services

#125
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The OP explicitly answers this: go back to pre-80s antitrust policy. Companies can be bought and sold but not if it creates concentrations of economic power that allow them to dictate prices to vendors or customers.

This is vague and not actionable. Should Microsoft and Amazon have been able to buy Anthropic and OpenAI 5 years ago? People always give these vague guidelines (and even the guidelines in the 80s were) and wonder why they are easily circumvented.

Microsoft and Amazon should have been restricted, due to their monopoly power, long before 5 years ago.

I've read enough of the pre-Borkian (ie, pre-1980s) history of antitrust law to know this was very actionable.

They were not easily circumvented in that it required decades of funding and activism to nerf the Sherman Antitrust Act and its successors.

Re: Private equity bought America's essential services

#126

The irony is that PEs exist largely because of pension funds. So to sum it up (not so nicely) we are transferring value from our current standard of living to pay for retirement checks for our old folks. Pensions fund a significant part of PE and they do so because they need around a 7% return in order to look solvent. If they do not have the higher PE returns, they basically go out if cash in 10 years and everyone w…

Had pension fund just invest in VOO, PE won't need to exist.

Re: Private equity bought America's essential services

#127

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If the acquirer attempts to acquire a startup (regardless of investor) for anti trust reasons, or there are anti trust concerns, the M&A activity is disallowed by regulators. A recent example is Figma and Adobe. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

Seems vague. What is an anti trust reason? Figma and Adobe id a great example. Both are doing very poorly.

What definition of success are we using that having over $7 billion in net income after expenses in 2025, and nearly $2 billion so far this year, is "doing very poorly"?

2025 numbers: https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/796343/0000796343250...

2026 Q1 numbers: https://mlq.ai/stocks/ADBE/q1-2026-earnings/

Re: Private equity bought America's essential services

#128
ZIRP created a level of absurd wealth such that the ultra wealthy can buy large swathes of things that they never could before, and they’re doing it. And societal norms and laws can’t keep up with it to protect us from them.

Now they are buying fire stations, dentist offices, ski resorts, whatever the fuck they can think of and then raise the prices. Something needs to be done to stop this.

Re: Private equity bought America's essential services

#129

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How is going back to a policy that used to work "vague and unactionable"? It literally had been actionable.

It did not work though. Bell and Standard Oil are notable examples. What else?

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