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Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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Post by civvv »

hn111 wrote: post #38
tfrancisl wrote: post #31

> I worked as a developer at a company. I asked the business owner a question about a business task. He sent me a ChatGPT screenshot with the answer. Something similar to this happened in a "public" chat space at my company, and, despite the fact that we are leaning into LLMs and agentic workflows quite a bit, the responses were generally "I aint reading all that" and "hey, dude, thats kinda unprofessional." We shoul…

You can send them this: https://noslopgrenade.com

>Or as Jean Baudrillard has said:

It is nothing short of profoundly ironic to quote Jean Baudrillard in this context.

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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Post by isidisjcisjcud »

dist-epoch wrote: post #274
ghoulishly wrote: post #242

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve seen this at work and it drives me nuts. I don’t value my time extraordinarily highly but even still I find it disrespectful to offload my question and make me read something they didn’t even bother to read.

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> Same argument can be used against you

That’s false equivalence and I think you know that.

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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Post by toomuchtodo »

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #383
Falell wrote: post #353

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The kind of people GP is referring to refuse to actually learn from this. I've had several coworkers over the last 15 years that absolutely refuse to 'learn to fish'.

I’ve encountered this regularly. I love to learn. I never want to stop learning. Apparently, I’m in a minority. I have often offered to work with folks, and teach them how to develop shipping software. This is something I’m actually fairly good at, having done it, my entire career. I’m retired, now, but continue to develop shipping software. I often offer to do so, with others, so they can learn in an actual producti…

Meta: This is why HN attracts curious people. They are rare. Finding and hiring them is hard. The forum cultivates for them, like gardeners tending a garden for pollinators. My best tip for hiring has always been "Hire curious people with a proven ability to build, get out of their way, and retain them as long as you can by meeting their professional expectations (comp, work experience, meaningful work, broadly speaking)."

Find Your People - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44074017 - May 2025 (283 comments)

(strongly agree working with people who do not care or do not want to learn is soul crushing, engineer around it to the best of your ability, or change your operating environment to improve upon it, when able to; your time and energy is non renewable)

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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Post by bauldursdev »

I despise when someone just passes my prompt to an AI, but I do honestly think that there are a minority of people who do better work with it. Not that the work is good, but they don't care to try and at least the AI is eager.

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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Post by tardedmeme »

jerf wrote: post #250
thunfischtoast wrote: post #47

AI makes it apparent that the only value some people bring to the table is that they have access to information that you do not. If now they fold that one advantage by just delegating everything to AI (which is in the same position as you informationwise), they will remove themselves from the worker pool soon.

If you're in a particularly fiesty mood you can lean into that. "If all you are is a proxy to an AI, exactly what value are you adding to the organization?" While most of us actually commenting are obviously firmly on the "don't do this" side, for any lurkers who may have done this in the recent past or are considering doing it in the future, I would advise you to consider this point for your own actions. If all you…

Organizations will become even less about adding real value and more about making the boss feel good about you.

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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Post by rpdillon »

randallsquared wrote: post #232
js8 wrote: post #181

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LMGTFY is an ironic jab, not a suggestion. > if you are going to ask me for help, at least make some effort first It's actually the other way around. You should think what makes you feel they didn't make an effort? Why do you think I am asking - because I think you have a better answer than I can get from Google or AI. But this is where it's apparently going. We will all talk to AI rather than each other. And we will…

> You should think what makes you feel they didn't make an effort? Long experience. There are a lot of people out there in the workforce who ask their boss or a more senior coworker a question the moment they think of it, with no attempt to find the answer via tools at their disposal. Maybe not as many as 80%, as implied by @sdoering below in a sibling thread, but quite a few.

Indeed - I had a team that called this "remote brain execution" (we were a build team that used Bazel, and often fielded questions about why someone's build broke).

My favorite phrase on that team was "What have you tried so far?"

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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Post by tardedmeme »

dabbledash wrote: post #113
hypfer wrote: post #26

AI has "just" greatly accelerated/amplified dysfunction that was already there previously. Even before AI, you often weren't truly talking with other real people on the web. Even if it was an actual human that responded, online tribalism led to erasure of said human-ness. So from that standpoint, being exhausted by not talking to real humans might be good or at least necessary.

The sad thing is it happens in real life too. You'll talk to people and it's like 25% of their brain has been taken over by a parasite that replicates itself by amplifying their tribe's Talking Point of The Day. You have to just wait for them to get it out and then you can talk to the real person again.

Got any examples?

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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Post by eddieroger »

alex_young wrote: post #294

Someone replied. It was the exact same text the AI had given me. How would this happen? I thought most of these things used random seeds when returning responses. I understand similar, but exactly the same seems pretty odd if 2 people use the same prompt in 2 sessions.

Help desks and canned replies - if a user complains about X, respond with Y. We used to just have humans do it, but turns out machines can do that bit, too, especially if the question is relatively simple or asked a lot or has an answer not up for debate.

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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Post by tardedmeme »

redsocksfan45 wrote: post #386
mapontosevenths wrote: post #44

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I think some of them are actually run by Reddit directly. They couldn't find any way to keep making 'line go up', so they decided they could sumulate growth by machine translating Indian users to English and vice versa. I think they're translating between users transparently to make it look like it's not a ghost town, and the machine translation reads like bot text. I could be wrong, it's just a guess.

Reddit has been botting since the very beginning and never stopped.

This is true. I vouched it. It's well known that Reddit was initially seeded by bots copying from other sites to fake organic activity.

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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Post by Hobadee »

everdrive wrote: post #267
sschueller wrote: post #127

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True but how many times have people sent someone "let me google that for you". Some people are inherently lazy and unload their laziness to someone else to do the thinking for them. I still think sending someone an AI answer is terrible but then again, if you are going to ask me for help, at least make some effort first. EDIT: By laziness I mean that there are known places (they know of) with documentation that cover…

I also knew people who have some social dysfunction, and they seem to rely on LLMs as a crutch. The belief seems to be "there's no way I'll phrase this right, I need to let the LLM do it for me." The troubling thing is they are at least partially correct. But, like everything else, they're letting a skill atrophy.

If you are really concerned with that, you should take a first stab at it, then ask AI to proofread it for you and change the tone if necessary. I have no problem with that; thinking was still done by a human, you just needed help proofreading, which has always been something that's valid to outsource.
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