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Wrote tomaytotomato 3 hours ago: >If you want a stretch goal try and de-Google yourself, I have tried but failed twice now. My point is that even with unlimited resources it's impossible to de-Google yourself.
De-Googling (in this context at least) means not running Google software on your phone. No Google Play Services always running in the background, plus not using Google apps.
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> even iPhones came (and still comes) with a ton of apps you cannot remove regardless of how little you use them You see, the user you replied to spoke in the present tense, and is addressing the “(and still comes with)” portion of the original comment.
And they added this ability a DECADE ago.
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You should all be aware that Lenovo (the owner of Motorola Mobility) has some dark moments in its past. https://www.theregister.com/2015/08/12/lenovo_firmware_nasty...
Asus does this on many of their consumer motherboards now, too.
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And operators preloading questionable stuff is a much older practice than post-iPhone smartphones. If you had a feature phone in the 2000's, the operator would have customised it one way or another. The iPhone was revolutionary in how much Apple forced the network operators to relinquish control.
I can remember Verizon being sued for forcing device makers to disable the ability to transfer files from feature phones to computers over Bluetooth, because they charged a per file fee to transfer files with their own proprietary software.
Verizon called it ISIS
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#235Think how bad the market got. Today we have preinstalled garbage apps like LinkedIn, garbage apps mandated to be preinstalled by the government, ads, cloud accounts, notifications spam, telemetry. This is not only Chinese smartphones, for example Samsung also plays this game. I assume there are Chinese backdoors, American backdoors and national government backdoors on almost every phone. And there seems to be no way…
> Think how bad the market got. How bad it's always been? Go find a Windows Recovery image for a Sony Vaio from the 2000s. Prepackaged shitware has always been a thing. I read this article and thought "wow someone finally matched an old Vaio." That said, I want to hear a statement from Motorola on this. The GrapheneOS phones they announced a few months ago were going to be my "out" from this kind of nonsense. I want…
Their user base wouldn't ever trust them again if anything shady happened - there's enough trolls and French prowling on the perimeter already.
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#236https://web.archive.org/web/20260526042018/https://docs.devi...
Also, as of some hours ago Motorola has stopped the activity but didn't say anything about how it started in the first place. https://9to5google.com/2026/05/27/motorola-amazon-app-uninte...
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#237Isnt Motorola basically a ‘Shanzhai’ (copy cat) brand now? Some dude putting the logo on some OEM parts? I am thinking of that Commodore phone from a while back and others. While completely speculative, it is interesting to see legit brands go Shanzhai or get Shanzhaied and Shanzhai brands go legit (xiaomi, huawei)
Especially outside the flagship market, "shanzhai" is enough. I bought a $250 Motorola (G Stylus 2024 model) I wasn't looking for unique and breakthrough experiences. I just wanted good-enough screen/camera/battery life/performance, which can be presumably be produced from a wide assortment of more-or-less off-the-shelf parts. I am annoyed at the software degradation though. I don't appreciate the repeated unskippabl…
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I was thinking the same. But it worries me that these news about Motorola in particular doing shady shit. I was looking forward to the upcoming GrapheneOS/Motorola partnership :(
How about the FairPhone running /e/os (which is de-googled)? You can buy it preinstalled directly from Murena. Although this is not at your target price point. But /e/os can be used on hundreds of android phones (as opposed to GrapheneOS). So you can probably install it on your current phone https://doc.e.foundation/devices
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And before it was (smart)phones, it was PCs. The New York Times was running items on spyware and nagware on PCs in the early aughts.
PC is easier to fix.
1. The game's been played for a long time. Which was my principle point.
2. PCs were then, Smartphones are now. The story's getting worse, not better. As you note, in the case of a PC the problem is easier fix, e.g., now is worse.
3. Unless there is direct and violent pushback, expect to see this shit forever.
4. The best solution during aughts for PC crapware was to wipe and install Linux. Now it's to wipe and install a free mobile OS such as Graphene. In both cases, this is beyond the ken or capabilities of 95%+ of the population.
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You can now. You couldn't do this in the early versions of iOS.
You can. I’ve removed Apple Music and Apple Maps (seriously, who uses that?) but apple makes extra sure most things are more annoying to use without maps. Calendar app with an address? Default to opening in Apple Maps which is missing so error message (twice). Find my? Also open in apple maps with missing app error message. Even with Google Maps set as default systemwide.