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Re: Ask HN: When and why did you start believing in God?

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I built a more solid foundation for life after discovering spirituality in my mid 30s, but I still do not believe in a God the way religious people do. The existence of a prime mover from which the universe expanded (pretty difficult to refute) doesn't require my worship.

The first few chapters of Alan Watts' "The Way of Zen" opened a completely new world to me outside of rationality which I sorely was ignorant about, and I desperately needed. Having a spiritual perspective from which to view the world is probably the most valuable part of the religious experience. The fantasies people have over the centuries built on top, I really can do without.

Re: Ask HN: When and why did you start believing in God?

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post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_hole

I said show me, not point me at a hypothetical entity with no known pathway to reified existence.

> hypothetical entity with no known pathway to reified existence.

More realistic than god.

Re: Ask HN: When and why did you start believing in God?

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post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I said show me, not point me at a hypothetical entity with no known pathway to reified existence.

> hypothetical entity with no known pathway to reified existence. More realistic than god.

> More realistic than god.

No argument there, but “in nature everything has an opposite” is just as illogical; many things have no opposite, thus it’s not “at least two” it’s zero asshole gods in a nihilistic atheistic universe, one asshole god in a true monotheistic universe, one neutered god and one not-quite god representing the bit that’s been neutered off in a false monotheistic universe, one good god and one bad god in a morally balanced duotheistic universe (looks identical to the zero god(s) option), or a variable number of variably asshole gods in a polytheistic universe.

Re: Ask HN: When and why did you start believing in God?

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For me it was that the implications of atheistic materialism contradicted basic empiric knowledge. Atheistic materialism is an onthologic monism, the ultimate implication of it is that nothing can be defined since everything is a continuum. yet we can discriminate concrete objects and things. No essence can be defined in Mat-Ath, When I was an atheist I argued that the essence of things can be defined in their compos…

> atheists have no explaination for ...

So? Better to not be able to explain something, than a glib "god did it".

> atheists have no answer other than "thats just how the universe works, period"

I've never heard an atheist say anything like this. Or a physicist. They're more likely to say "that's how it appears to be. We don't know why. It's a bit of a mystery."

Re: Ask HN: When and why did you start believing in God?

#39

There is absolutely no god(s). It is a false fabrication of the human mind.

what created the universe?

Don’t know, but religions created to reign in the masses probably don’t explain it.

There were many religions before the Abrahamic ones.

Re: Ask HN: When and why did you start believing in God?

#40

Which god?

I’m a fan of Ra the sun god. What could be more reasonable than to worship the source of all heat life and light in this world? Unfortunately I grew up in the wrong era/continent for that.

Wagyl FTW here.

Once you've climbed a tree or cliff face and fallen free into the embrace of Wagyl's creation you'll not see the world in the same way again.

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wagyl

* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djEqLRdqScM

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