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The real cost of owning a home

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Re: The real cost of owning a home

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Aren't quite a few of these concerns alleviated by owning a condo?

Which ones? Mortgage, real estate costs, repairs, maintenance are all still there with a condo.

My gut feeling is that repairs and maintenance cost more with condos than if you own a home and you're handy to fix minor stuff and know how to find good contractors for bigger jobs. I imagine condo jobs becomes more difficult and contractors charge more for those jobs. But I don't have data to back my hunch. Condo has extra issues in dealing with neighbor problems (issues with garbage, pets, unpaid fees, noise, etc...) and you have to maintain shared spaces (hallways, elevators, etc...) and you end up paying for that via your condo fees.

Re: The real cost of owning a home

#22
When I was a homeowner (I recently exited), I found it incredibly discouraging how every vendor who came over for this or that looked at you like a walking sack of dollar bills after driving up to your home in a brand new pickup truck. When you do hire them, the owner never even shows up for a final inspection. There's a large part of the economy who knows their customers will treat their equity like a bank and prices accordingly.

Re: The real cost of owning a home

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On the other hand, renting comes with hidden (and some not so hidden) costs too. The main one for me is the inherent precariousness that comes with renting. You don’t know how much longer you’re going to be able to stay in your apartment, whether that be due to rent hikes or the landlord deciding that they want to give the apartment to their nephew or any number of other things. The constant low level stress of knowi…

If you rent from an apartment complex (corporate owned), how big is the risk of being kicked out if you pay your rent?

Re: The real cost of owning a home

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Aren't quite a few of these concerns alleviated by owning a condo?

Condos basically just force you to pay for the ongoing maintenance that the author mentioned, but with the downside of not actually having any control over the quality of the work or the decision making process at all unless you're on the condo board.

Condos are generally the worst of both worlds, because you have almost all the responsibilities of homeownership combined with nearly all of the restrictions of renting an apartment.

There's a reason they appreciate significantly less than other types of property.

Re: The real cost of owning a home

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Beyond the financials, the psychological impact of both being able to make greater-than-superficial changes, and having extremely predictable payments for years without worrying about substantial rent increases, is substantial. I redid/improved the bathroom to exactly what I wanted. I renovated the kitchen. I added paneling to the walls. I added a few outlets to rooms that needed more. I wouldn't do these things in a…

> I redid/improved...

We are extending the fence in our backyard.

However, getting rid of the parking means the project will likely detract from the value of the home. But since we don't have a car, let alone two, it makes sense for us to do the project anyway. Despite the warning of our realtor when we purchased the home.

I've noticed a lot of folks are afraid to personalize their homes because of concern about the value when they eventually sell.

Re: The real cost of owning a home

#26
Is there someplace that takes all of these inputs. Then graphs them over 10 or 20 years and include some adjustment for inflation? I didn't see in article any discussion about mortgage rates versus appreciation versus inflation.

Article did sum all the inputs/outputs, and came out at loss. I'm just wondering if there is some other trends over 10 or 20 years that make the house better.

Re: The real cost of owning a home

#27
People act like owning a home and coming out financially ahead is an inviolable law of physics. It is not. Buying a house is like purchasing an option to have something at a set price in the future. That option can be overpriced to the point where it is not profitable.

This isn't to say that there are not emotional aspects to owning, but that is a separate discussion.

Re: The real cost of owning a home

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Having your own home and property where no one on earth can tell you how to live: priceless.

Maybe home ownership is becoming a luxury, but humans don't exist in financial spreadsheets. The intagibles of SFH ownership are worth literally everything to me after a lifetime of renting.

It's also absolutely a class differentiator in the US. If you're behind on your rent and getting evicted, that's seen as a personal moral failure. If you're behind on your mortgage and getting foreclosed, it's considered a tragedy, and there are many options for support like forebearance. Just look at what happened during COVID; red state renters were getting knocked on by the sheriff within 90 days, while it can take years for someone to lose their house.

Re: The real cost of owning a home

#30

On the other hand, renting comes with hidden (and some not so hidden) costs too. The main one for me is the inherent precariousness that comes with renting. You don’t know how much longer you’re going to be able to stay in your apartment, whether that be due to rent hikes or the landlord deciding that they want to give the apartment to their nephew or any number of other things. The constant low level stress of knowi…

If you rent from an apartment complex (corporate owned), how big is the risk of being kicked out if you pay your rent?

If you stay long enough, you might be forced to move to another unit for a renovation.
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