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Netherlands blocks US takeover of vital digital supplier

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Re: Netherlands blocks US takeover of vital digital supplier

#81

The Dutch should be aware that if Netherland has some information-sharing agreements with Five Eyes or Fourteen Eyes, all this data will still be available to the US (and other allies) (hopefully, presumably, with your government acting as the gatekeeper).

It's not about privacy, it's about control.

Re: Netherlands blocks US takeover of vital digital supplier

#82

How come the Dutch people aren't offering more than the US investors to purchase this company, since this seems to be so close at heart?

maybe how much money you are willing to spend isn't a perfect measure of how important something is?

It is just about the only measure. People who claim something is extremely important and then will not take any action or spend any money - they're dishonest people.

Let's see if the Dutch are men of their words. I expect the government to offer to buy this company, or an offering being made for the Dutch investing public to get shares.

Re: Netherlands blocks US takeover of vital digital supplier

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because too few IT capable people are willing to work under the government's pay scales; in most cases going private / corporate earns more. So most Dutch IT projects end up with private companies, which also means that, in the case of DigID and the secure / official messaging platform, the hosting party can charge exorbitant rates. Did you know it costs 25 cents to send a message via the Berichtenbox? So when the go…

For the record, Logius (the government owned enterprise dealing with DigID) vacancy for Java developer: https://www.werkenvoornederland.nl/vacatures/lead-java-devel... . 92k EUR per year for whatever they measure as 40 hours a week (I bet they close the shop at 4 pm). >Did you know it costs 25 cents to send a message via the Berichtenbox? In a country with paid toilets what do you expect lol

That doesn't sound bad at all. At least for me as a German that would be a salary that you wouldn't get at every random company.

Maybe the Netherlands are different (country can vary a lot with what is included in a salary) ?

Re: Netherlands blocks US takeover of vital digital supplier

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is not some sort of company making unique tech, it's a company handling some of the most the vital infrastructure for our government, you can imagine the privacy concerns. Completely different case

Sure, but the point is that it's tit-for-tat. This US administration is petty.

True. But the reaction also depends on how much money the leverage is worth and how much Solvinity has to offer here.

Re: Netherlands blocks US takeover of vital digital supplier

#86
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, but the point is that it's tit-for-tat. This US administration is petty.

All the more reason to block vital stuff going to the US. They cannot be trusted anymore.

True, but the question is if it isn't smarter to wait for the midterms in November where it currently looks like it's going to be a disaster for Trump and the Republicans.

Re: Netherlands blocks US takeover of vital digital supplier

#88
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Finally! The entire country has been clamouring for this for weeks, and the government has been completely silent about it. A couple of weeks ago, the entire parliament (with only a single party dissenting) voted for a motion to end the contract with Solvinity, but the government extended it anyway, leaving blocking the takeover as the only option, and there wasn't a lot of confidence that the government would do tha…

>> Finally! You are behind the curve. You read here first. Lets revisit this comment in 2 years... This will be overturned by both Dutch and European courts after the company appeals, and specially after Mark Rutte Daddy calls. The only purpose of this action is for the Dutch government to save face, and its for internal consumption. They already have the internal legal advice stating this, hidden away in some closet…

In 2 years the contract is up for renegotiation to a different entity (and there's now plenty of political pressure to go with a different one), so I don't think it's a problem by then.

Tying the process up in the courts for that period is also a political victory, since by the time it'd be resolved, Solvinity wouldn't have the contract anymore anyways.

Re: Netherlands blocks US takeover of vital digital supplier

#89
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The subtitle “Across Europe, there have been increased concerns about the bloc’s reliance on American tech.” is false and really an economic chamber. The author has no basis for this claim, factually or otherwise .. maybe a small tiny group would love to see this happen, but EU is happy like rest of the world minus China to enjoy the products made by great American software companies.

Are you serious? You did notice that there was even a EU digital sovereignty summit recently?

I didn’t notice. But regardless, a summit doesn't dictate or reflect the desires and opinions of 27 member states and its 450 million citizens and more importantly its companies and business to want to switch to European alternatives.

To give you an example, if India or China or Africa holds a summit on climate change, it doesn’t mean that its citizens want that or even care about it.

Anyway, the idea that such a big geography should move away from the best software factory of the world because it has some political agenda with its current leader is both impossible and overall quite childish and will never come to fruition.

Re: Netherlands blocks US takeover of vital digital supplier

#90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

maybe how much money you are willing to spend isn't a perfect measure of how important something is?

It is just about the only measure. People who claim something is extremely important and then will not take any action or spend any money - they're dishonest people. Let's see if the Dutch are men of their words. I expect the government to offer to buy this company, or an offering being made for the Dutch investing public to get shares.

Is water less important to the poor person dying of thirst than to the rich guy watering his lawn?
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